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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying beast has been found and is now

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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yeah man how you doing

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today's monday september 27 2021 let's

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270 days into the new year only 95 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful yeah it is

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it rocks

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night

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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this is fade to black

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for kjcr the game changer network i am

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your host jimmy church

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what is kraken

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i'm looking forward to this one folks

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first time guest awakening man

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he calls into the show all the time but

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our guest along with ra

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they're both here tonight to talk about

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their recent ufo bigfoot road trip

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that started

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started right here and uh

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eric disappeared

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tell the story okay i'm not gonna i'm

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get ahead of my skis here

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no spoiler alert so i'm not going to do

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that but they just went on a ufo bigfoot

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road trip and they went to a couple of

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the hot spots so uh what did they see

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what did they discover

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what did they hear did they take

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that uh eric

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uh took a lot of pictures but he shot

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video of the entire trip and is putting

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on the fade to black youtube channel if

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i can talk him into it if he will allow

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me the privilege and the honor

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to uh get that up there on our channel i

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on the show tomorrow night now this is

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road trip week

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here on fade to black because tomorrow

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billy carson is here he just got back

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and now i'm calling this show tonight

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the halls are tomorrow night the halls

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all right so you get ready that is

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tomorrow night billy carson just got

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wednesday night todd standing and then

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thursday nights another fader night with

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open lines all night long all right

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is hashtag f2b on twitter i want to uh

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uh meow i love the peanuts

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answer to that like the penis so the

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peanuts dancing is really cool okay all

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tonight hashtag f2bq right there on

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twitter hello to everybody watching all

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around the world if you are watching on

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that's where things are sitting right

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we are good to go okay

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i'm going to get straight to the

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is ray's hobbs last night and show with

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hard work and dedication with us over

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the last six years he's been doing the

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kgra for 10 years

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and we've been part of kgra for the last

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six it's been an amazing ride he is the

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reason why fade to black is on kgra we

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could have gone anywhere

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we went uh we went to the kgra because

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well nobody can predict anything

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we'll see you out there bro

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wing

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a home drone delivery service operated

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by google's alphabet in canberra

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the latest attack was captured on video

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and posted online by ben roberts a local

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rumor has it it's fade to black blend

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now i posted the video on twitter

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so uh go and check it out it's

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a new force has entered the fold in the

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ongoing search for gabby petito's

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the fame tv personality and real life

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human tracker has thrown his hat into

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the ring to help try and locate laundry

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who was vanished

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of a massive manhunt as he's suspect

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number one in the whole case

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laundry's disappearance came at the

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chronicling their travels on social

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van life but laundry returned home

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authorities found petito's remains in a

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dog the bounty hunter gets involved

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this uh this is gonna get figured out

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singer r kelly has been convicted of

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of new york kelly faced a total of nine

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one count of racketeering with 14

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um hey are you guys watching squid game

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have you guys peep that out i know that

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watching midnight mass and i pounded

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that thing man i

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i uh binged that in in

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i was gonna say in a day in a day plus

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an hour i couldn't squeeze the last

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but uh got that done it's pretty cool so

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check that out and uh it's not what you

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anyway i'm gonna leave uh midnight mass

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have you guys watched i think it's

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called squid game game squid squid game

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holy mackerel

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okay that's all i'm gonna say but it's

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subtitled so you've gotta get through

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that but it's

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it's wow okay so we will find out where

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that is going anyway i don't want to be

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an alarmist but a solar storm will slam

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causing auroras to dance in the sky at

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much lower latitudes than usual and as a

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result the northern lights may be

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visible tonight

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in the northern united states

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that's right i'm talking about

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from washington state to wisconsin

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including new york all the way across

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which is made up of charged solar

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that's right including

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all of this at high latitudes above the

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all of

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yeah man so you know if you're up there

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if you're up that far north and

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and the show gets a little bit funky uh

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you know why

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and i hear

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i hear my fan running in the background

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and it's way down there i apologize for

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that i normally turn it off during the

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show

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but i hear it so that's what's running

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in the background all right i'll take

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care of it but you're gonna have to wait

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till the break

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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gwen of paltrow

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gwyneth paltrow today is 49. i oh okay

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avengers iron man all that

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it's okay it's okay

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the royal tenon bombs

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that's the movie

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and

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gwyneth i think off-air she she's one of

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the funniest people out there i think

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she's great and of course bla blyth

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danner is her mom and

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and enough said right there but i really

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like uh gweneth so happy birthday going

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at 49.

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meatloaf today is 74.

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sean cassidy

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today

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is 63. i thought he was older than that

325
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i didn't realize we were that close in

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age and guitar great dare i say guitar

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god

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randy bachman today is 78. our dead

329
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guy's birthday today is

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greg hamm

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1953 to 2012 died at the age of 58. greg

332
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played saxophone flute and keyboards and

333
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was an original member of

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men at work

335
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yes it was greg who played that amazing

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those amazing flute solos in their

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international hit song

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down under

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but later men at work and their label

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emi were sued for plagiarism

341
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the flute riff was copied

342
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by uh copied the 1934 nursery rhyme

343
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kookaburra

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didn't know that the federal court of

345
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australia ruled that down under

346
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did infringe the copyright of kookaburra

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and awarded lyrican music royalties

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greg said that he was deeply affected by

349
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the judgment and felt it tarnished his

350
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reputation saying quote

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i'm terribly disappointed that that's

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the way i'm going to be remembered

353
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for copying something

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end quote

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greg was found dead on april 19 2012 at

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his home in carlton north melbourne

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he had long battled with heroin

358
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addiction and the cause of death is

359
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still being debated it is known that he

360
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was despondent and emotionally

361
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distressed

362
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over that copyright lawsuit filed

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against him

364
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happy birthday greg on this day in

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history otd

366
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it went down

367
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this is a big deal

368
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:03,520
i mean this was on the news

369
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,000
all day long in los angeles i can't

370
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:07,840
speak for the rest of the country but it

371
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,559
went down when jazya gabor

372
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on trial

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for slapping

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a police officer

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storms out of the courtroom in the

376
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middle of the district attorney's

377
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:21,280
closing argument

378
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later that day

379
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gabor was convicted and sentenced to 72

380
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hours in jail 120 hours of community

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service

382
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and a 13 000

383
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,520
fine

384
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imagine slapping a cop

385
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:38,240
today

386
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:39,360
yeah

387
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:42,400
that have a whole different ending

388
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:43,919
fader fact

389
00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:48,710
now all i hear is the fan

390
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,799
that's that's all i hear

391
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,559
that's all i hear

392
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,720
and it's way

393
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,360
way down there

394
00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,039
oh well

395
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,320
fader fact joseph stalin

396
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:04,799
struggled with depression

397
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,600
so he gets on the phone he calls

398
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:09,120
renowned

399
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:13,360
russian psychiatrist vladimir bechterev

400
00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,000
calls him in says examine me

401
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:18,559
well after that examination

402
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,000
bechterev said only one word

403
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:26,310
bechterev

404
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:29,280
died the very next day

405
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,070
that is your fader fact

406
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,400
tonight very special guest awakening man

407
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:40,320
and ra join us

408
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:42,159
we're gonna talk about their recent ufo

409
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:44,720
bigfoot road trip that started

410
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:48,960
in the bunker it did it started

411
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:49,919
here

412
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,559
and he just got back from his road trip

413
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,320
in egypt tomorrow night's show was

414
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:00,720
called the halls of amenti

415
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:03,600
you can figure out all of that on your

416
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:04,559
own

417
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:06,880
wednesday night another road trip show

418
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:09,120
todd standing is here we're going to be

419
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,240
talking about

420
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:13,039
his search for bigfoot

421
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:14,640
man what a great week on the show

422
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,159
thursday nights another fader night with

423
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,000
open lines all night long

424
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,080
all right now it's time for me to hit

425
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:21,679
this

426
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:32,070
coffee you have no idea you need one of

427
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,039
these

428
00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:34,880
i got a wheel over here

429
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:44,710
and then i got a wheel back i'm back

430
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:47,760
fade to black blend

431
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,480
you have no id when when this comes

432
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,159
in the mail

433
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:54,400
right and you've got eight of these

434
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,919
maybe you got a couple jumbo bat

435
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,760
whatever but that comes there's my

436
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:59,840
picture right there right there right

437
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:01,679
there on the label

438
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:04,720
this comes you have you dance

439
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:07,600
like the faded black plant is here

440
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,789
oh you have no idea

441
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,960
get a coffee grinder

442
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:18,400
you can get this ground don't get a

443
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,280
ground go it doesn't matter man go to go

444
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,600
go to target sears

445
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,559
is all closed but go to target go to

446
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,120
walmart i don't care sam's club costco i

447
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:30,799
don't care where you get a coffee

448
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,360
grinder go to amazon click

449
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,200
search coffee grinders get a burr

450
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:36,960
grinder if you really want to go all in

451
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:39,280
and get a burr grinder

452
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,320
and uh

453
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:42,559
and a whole bean

454
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,430
it's the best coffee in the world all

455
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:55,190
river moon rivermoonwellness.com is that

456
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,320
joshua

457
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,240
is she oh okay

458
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,440
was was she on petticoat junction

459
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,679
or was that her sister

460
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:05,679
was that jaja

461
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,919
her sister was a jazz jagged boy eva

462
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,440
gabor

463
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:12,159
um i'll tell you a funny thing about zsa

464
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,840
in that trial

465
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,799
so

466
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,400
there was a witness

467
00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,640
uh to the trial i can't remember where

468
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:20,240
he was from

469
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,520
but

470
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:23,919
she called him a baby

471
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,320
like oh there was like a gag order you

472
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,480
know and this is a sensational trial

473
00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:30,720
here in l.a and joshua loved the press

474
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,840
and she loved getting out in front of

475
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,120
the cameras and she was trying to make

476
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,440
statements every day the judge said no

477
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,200
no that's it that's it

478
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,320
gag order on this trial and jaja

479
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,880
goes out violates the gag order this is

480
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:45,440
my memory i could have it wrong

481
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:46,559
um

482
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:49,919
okay but she gets out and she's like

483
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:52,799
his name is like man

484
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,679
amir or something oh you know what i got

485
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:57,840
that but he's from the middle east and

486
00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:00,159
she calls him a baby

487
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:01,120
and

488
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,000
like attacks his nationality

489
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,320
and then she comes back and tries to

490
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,360
apologize to him and says

491
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,200
says uh you know

492
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,679
i speak turkish

493
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,720
i think or or or

494
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,960
whatever whatever she says

495
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:23,039
and he's like i'm

496
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,640
i'm from

497
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:25,440
uh

498
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:29,200
pakistan or from i'm from iraq or

499
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:31,039
something he comes back with it she goes

500
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,870
joshua

501
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,400
oh man

502
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,320
all right all right all right all right

503
00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:41,840
slapped a cop

504
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,720
where am i at uh

505
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,679
rivermoonwellness.com fade to black plum

506
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,000
promo code f2b plan

507
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,559
all right um

508
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,799
i i wanted to say this uh before i bring

509
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,520
in uh awakening man ara's gonna be with

510
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:57,360
us at the top of the hour

511
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,840
uh awakening man's coming in first

512
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,200
um

513
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,919
there are

514
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,400
one of my favorite things to do and and

515
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,799
look i i love cooking i love having

516
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:10,480
guests over at the house

517
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,799
um i love the celebration of of dinner

518
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,480
and sitting around i love the company of

519
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,600
friends there's it's the ultimate

520
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:20,559
that

521
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,720
is a road trip

522
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,440
and i like going on road trips and i

523
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,360
like going out with groups of people

524
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:35,840
doing night watches and hanging out all

525
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,039
night food and all that stuff that we do

526
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:42,960
but there are without question

527
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:45,919
spots around this country where things

528
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,120
seem to jump off

529
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,720
it's a fact

530
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:51,840
and

531
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,600
um yes there are places in in utah there

532
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,200
are places in

533
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,360
in new mexico there are places

534
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,520
creststone colorado

535
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,240
uh there's uh you know i just said

536
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,640
joshua tree there's uh places in

537
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:08,240
washington there's

538
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,760
oregon right shasta there's places

539
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:13,279
all over

540
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,240
and

541
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,080
there's many that

542
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,120
and my point being

543
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,600
that this conversation that's about to

544
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,679
happen tonight

545
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:25,039
happened here

546
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:28,960
so we started here so we were able to do

547
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:32,080
my two favorite things that night

548
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,990
dinner drinks dessert right did all of

549
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,039
that

550
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,720
sky watching

551
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,440
went on a little road trip

552
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,679
and went out and saw some stuff i posted

553
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:47,760
all the pictures on that and stuff but

554
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,640
but

555
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:50,400
this evening

556
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:54,000
on the show started here

557
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,360
and so

558
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,679
awakening man eric

559
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:59,200
you know pulls up to my house he's got

560
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,000
his road trip van and it's no joke

561
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,760
you know he's got his bed he's got his

562
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,760
generator he's got coolers lights

563
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:08,000
batteries there's that that

564
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,760
it's packed

565
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:11,039
and

566
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,760
trip three weeks

567
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,279
three weeks

568
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:18,720
you know starting here he's gonna spend

569
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,360
the weekend uh here at the house but

570
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:24,880
he went

571
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:31,520
and

572
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,399
down through all of those states

573
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,720
looking and searching for everything

574
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:40,640
that is dedication

575
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,640
and i was uh talking over the weekend um

576
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,559
i had a uh

577
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,559
steve bassett over at the house great

578
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,919
dinner

579
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,919
and we're talking about road trips and

580
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,760
going out and where you know and it was

581
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,159
a long conversation with stephen talked

582
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:58,559
a little bit about awakening man

583
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,919
and the stuff that goes on uh in the

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mojave desert

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right here

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00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,559
and you can go out uh just about any

587
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,279
night and see something

588
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,760
it's it's it's insane

589
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:16,320
and so we talk about these other magical

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places

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00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,760
but this road trip started out here

592
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,000
and we saw some stuff

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it's absolutely my favorite thing to do

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now

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i uh i believe

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00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,799
let me say this

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i believe that there's a lot of things

598
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,880
happening right uh right here in the

599
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mojave desert

600
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,399
edwards air force base is a training and

601
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,600
test facility of the highest

602
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,880
secrecy

603
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,159
that's here

604
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,159
uh you have raytheon you have air force

605
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,039
plant 42 you've got lockheed skunk works

606
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:53,440
all within a few miles

607
00:29:02,549 --> 00:28:59,669
it's what is going on right and then

608
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:02,559
you venture out into the mojave

609
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,440
we've got anjali talking about this

610
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,960
underground

611
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:08,000
e.t

612
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:09,120
base

613
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,720
somewhere here in the mojave i don't

614
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,559
know where

615
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,200
like to find out but i don't know

616
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,720
i don't know

617
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,240
but there's things that are going on

618
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:23,430
there are people that talk about it you

619
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:26,159
listen to it on the show and then

620
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:27,760
there's others

621
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:31,200
like ra an awakening man uh that that

622
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,799
get in the car

623
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,640
and go

624
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,720
they video they talk to people they

625
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,320
interview people they get together

626
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,000
they're out they're in the woods they're

627
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:42,799
in the mountains and they're searching

628
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,679
and what did they see what what did they

629
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:47,440
figure out what did they discover well

630
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:48,720
we're going to talk about all of that

631
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,440
tonight but the point is you should do

632
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:53,440
the same thing and i hope that this

633
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:54,399
motivates

634
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,520
you

635
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,480
to go out come and hang out with us

636
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,559
we're out there all the time go just go

637
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,279
get in the car go go to crest stone go

638
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,600
to roswell go to joshua tree go to

639
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,720
shasta

640
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,360
go do something it's all happening come

641
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,080
out to the mojave desert it's big

642
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,080
all right all right

643
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,559
that's my motivational speech for the

644
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:18,799
night i am your host jimmy church i'll

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be right back with uh awakening man at

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the top of the hour

647
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we're gonna have ra in here and then

648
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we're gonna ride out the show it's gonna

649
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:29,600
be a great night so stay right there

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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

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time to lose

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do it now

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fade to black

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is not

742
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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network and

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up chris what up this is

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[Music]

748
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,550
welcome back fade to black i am your

749
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,480
host jimmy church

750
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,640
what a great week we've got coming up on

751
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,960
faded black it's road trip week tonight

752
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:59,280
awakening man and raw join us

753
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,400
we're going to be talking about their

754
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,359
recent ufo bigfoot road trip tomorrow

755
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,960
night billy carson just got back from

756
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,640
his road trip

757
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,800
he went to egypt tomorrow night's show

758
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,200
is called halls of amenti

759
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wednesday night todd standing is here

760
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,680
now he's going to talk about

761
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:18,160
his search for bigfoot which has been

762
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one long road trip

763
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,800
yeah

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thursday is another fader night with

765
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open lines all night long tonight it's

766
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,920
awakening man and arcturus raw

767
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,320
and uh we're going to be talking about

768
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,240
their recent road trip to utah and

769
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,720
beyond what did they discover what did

770
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,280
they see did they make contact tonight

771
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,680
we're gonna find out awakening man has

772
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,440
been on a lifelong journey to find

773
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,839
answers to the ufo question and bigfoot

774
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,000
and all things unexplained he travels

775
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,160
the country to locations shooting videos

776
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:51,599
conducting interviews with some of the

777
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,440
most interesting people in our community

778
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,640
and i would like to welcome for the

779
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,720
first time to fade to black

780
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,400
eric awakening

781
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:03,359
oh i'm sorry eric all right man i gotta

782
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,560
i i i man i just did that to you man you

783
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:09,200
had to listen to the show and delay

784
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,160
welcome man for the first time

785
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,079
right on i'm so jazzed and i just want

786
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,839
to let everybody know that i'm going to

787
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,200
lay it all out there tonight and i'm

788
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,280
completely sober so there will be no

789
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,200
there will be no bs slung on jimmy

790
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,880
church paid to black tonight all right

791
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,400
all right but did you get the first time

792
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,480
guest disclaimer eric you got to make it

793
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,480
official all right it's just you and i

794
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,920
sitting on my couch having a

795
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,240
conversation as friends and where that

796
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,839
conversation starts and starts where it

797
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,520
ends it ends but we're gonna end his

798
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:38,400
friends all right you ready

799
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,440
i'm ready i'm stoked okay all right

800
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,200
so um

801
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:44,560
this

802
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,200
let's let's let's start uh let's start

803
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,599
here the road trip started

804
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,920
in the bunker and that that's pretty

805
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:53,839
cool right and

806
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,280
and we so we we did our little mini road

807
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,760
trip to kind of warm things up and and

808
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,200
we went out there and did our thing we

809
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,280
talked about it on the show already so

810
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:05,520
we don't need to go and visit that

811
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:09,119
but um it was pretty trippy uh for me

812
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,560
that morning

813
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:12,960
uh to walk you out to the van and that's

814
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,800
it the van starts

815
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,680
and you pull out of the driveway you

816
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,680
wave and it's like i'll talk to you

817
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:20,720
later

818
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,839
and i was like man i wish i could tag

819
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:25,440
along on this one

820
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:26,320
um

821
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,400
you disclosed to me uh over the weekend

822
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:32,960
that this was a three-week trip and i

823
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,119
remember my reaction was like what three

824
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,880
weeks and you had a lot of planning

825
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,800
there's a lot of things that had to go

826
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,800
down of course back at your house you've

827
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,640
got to prepare it for three weeks on the

828
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,880
road uh you've got a business that you

829
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,520
run and then you've got to plan all of

830
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,839
this out you were making stops you had

831
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:52,240
things you were meeting up with people

832
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,960
um i think you left my place for

833
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,119
basically the grand canyon that was like

834
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,440
your first stop or thereabouts we'll get

835
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,280
into all of that but then you went all

836
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,440
the way up turned around and then came

837
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:04,480
back

838
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,920
so um what states did you visit

839
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:11,760
okay so it started off in california

840
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:16,560
went to arizona then through utah

841
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,359
uh

842
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,599
i think we snuck through wyoming for a

843
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:22,000
minute and then we went up to

844
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,920
well utah is massive

845
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,160
we were all over utah and then from utah

846
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,760
we went to uh this is like

847
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:31,760
a week later we even eventually got went

848
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:33,280
through idaho

849
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,960
uh where else did i go to montana

850
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:38,320
and

851
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,200
back to back to utah then back to idaho

852
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,880
which i'll tell that story later tonight

853
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,800
because i was gonna go to washington

854
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,119
state and meet up with dr johnson

855
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,760
but he had uh to go out of town so he he

856
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,280
gave me a rain check so that'll be

857
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:52,720
another trip that we'll get to talk

858
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,040
about on another show so hopefully and

859
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,680
then and then through nevada and uh back

860
00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:59,680
to california so i don't know that six

861
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:02,960
or seven states 3 500 miles wow

862
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,160
and three three weeks or over three

863
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:07,760
weeks

864
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:10,319
i was well it was about 320 days if you

865
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,560
want to okay okay so 20 days that's a

866
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:14,480
that's a lot of that's a lot of

867
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:18,960
traveling that's a 3 000 miles wow okay

868
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,920
so um let's uh

869
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,480
uh we're going to have raw in at the top

870
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,680
of the hour

871
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,359
um

872
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,319
what was your first stop

873
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,200
the first stop was williams that's where

874
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:35,280
i would after i left your house drove up

875
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,200
to williams and uh where's william

876
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,200
williams is right next to where you're

877
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:42,960
going to the grand canyon right next to

878
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,760
uh what's that little town up there

879
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,040
jesus christ

880
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:49,119
i'm not worried about that what's that

881
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,400
black pepper about 30 minutes from

882
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,800
flagstaff okay so it's williams is in

883
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,640
arizona

884
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,200
yeah i guess right near the uh 64. which

885
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,440
is 64 is about a half an hour drive up

886
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,280
into the grand canyon so that williams

887
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,960
is literally like two blocks away from

888
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,560
that highway that you take into the

889
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:06,400
grand canyon which is beautiful and why

890
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:09,680
did you stop in williams

891
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:11,119
because i've been there before it's a

892
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,720
cool little town and people like to

893
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,640
party there so i thought you know i'm

894
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:16,240
just going to go into this little bar

895
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,000
there i forget what it's called a little

896
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,880
funky little bar and uh and i'm hearing

897
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,079
this music and it was it was this acdc

898
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,640
uh band that you know and they were

899
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,319
awesome you saw the video this is this

900
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,599
guy that

901
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,520
that was playing the guitar jump running

902
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,440
around and jumping around and

903
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,200
i mean that was exciting so that got my

904
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,880
juices pumping so that was the first

905
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,480
night and then uh

906
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,640
yeah and then the next day you know

907
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,160
what was cool though is originally it

908
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,240
was just gonna be raw and myself i i

909
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,880
have to throw this in there because uh

910
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:49,040
and then but somehow uh sarah wanted to

911
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:49,920
go

912
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,319
sarah sarah being sarah sarah adams

913
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,319
sarah adams okay i thought that would be

914
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,040
cool i i i'm gonna go along with that

915
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,960
because i wanted to keep it just raw on

916
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,119
myself but i was cool with sarah because

917
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:05,040
i knew if we brought sarah that she was

918
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,400
going to interpret everything that

919
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,079
happened we're going to get downloads

920
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,839
we're going to get insights and

921
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,760
information and it was it was just going

922
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,680
to be like a running dialogue all the

923
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,800
way there

924
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,640
and plus she's just a great she's a lot

925
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,880
of fun to hang out with she's super cool

926
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:20,800
okay and anyway we're like the mod squad

927
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:23,200
so that was that was the plan okay so

928
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:26,960
you guys uh meet up in williams uh

929
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,839
you're driving two cars

930
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,280
actually we met we all met up in the

931
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,359
grand canyon it was three cars we all

932
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,359
had our own car okay and we did like the

933
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,359
three hour trip around the rim of the

934
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:39,680
grand canyon stopped at every little

935
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:42,319
uh little pullout and like i told you at

936
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,440
your house

937
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,920
if you remember i said listen i said i'm

938
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,079
gonna record every stop because i know

939
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:49,680
that sarah and raw are gonna are gonna

940
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,119
have something to say about some

941
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,040
something that's happened in the past or

942
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:55,599
in the future or whatever some some some

943
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,040
sort of download that they were gonna

944
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:58,560
get so i recorded all these little

945
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,119
downloads that sarah and raw were having

946
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,280
and tonight when you get ron you got to

947
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,960
ask him about christopher walken because

948
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,520
he did a uh he had a christopher walken

949
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,680
download that i recorded which if you

950
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,280
heard it you'd be rolling in laughter

951
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:14,560
he's funny guy raw is a funny guy

952
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,359
so

953
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,640
three hours driving around the grand

954
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:20,560
canyon to each lookout spot that's

955
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:21,760
pretty epic

956
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,480
haven't done that been to the grand

957
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:28,800
canyon so many times but

958
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,839
um the one thing uh

959
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,760
about the grand canyon for those that

960
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:35,359
have never been there you see it in

961
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:38,960
pictures and people try to capture

962
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:41,440
its size in pictures

963
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:44,480
until you are there until you go and you

964
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:47,680
step up and take you you you have no

965
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,240
idea it is it is a crazy thing to see

966
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:55,040
and it uh it causes your heart to change

967
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:56,240
its rate

968
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,359
your breathing it is it is freaking big

969
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:01,359
man it is uh

970
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,280
unreal i've flown over it um many times

971
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,920
and uh when you when you fly over it and

972
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,680
you're looking at the window

973
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,160
because the geography of the united

974
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:14,240
states is very consistent right it

975
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,440
doesn't matter if you're going over

976
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,040
mountains or

977
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:18,880
you know but then all of a sudden when

978
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,680
you fly over the it's like this this

979
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,119
this thing

980
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,960
and it's huge and it breaks up

981
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,400
everything there's nothing like that

982
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,160
anywhere in the united states it is

983
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:29,920
crazy the world

984
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,680
it is amazing to see isn't it

985
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,520
it's awesome i mean it's like you said

986
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,440
though i all these pictures that i took

987
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,280
in these videos uh

988
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,440
there it's one thing to see the pictures

989
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,960
in the videos but when you're there

990
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,640
there's an experience that occurs i

991
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,920
don't know i don't know how to describe

992
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,560
it exactly but you internalize the whole

993
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,480
thing and it it's like you get on a

994
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:52,000
natural high when you're out there doing

995
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,280
these things and you're running on

996
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,119
adrenaline and it's just it's the

997
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,560
greatest thing i mean there's nothing

998
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,160
more fun to me than going on a road trip

999
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,920
especially with people like ron and

1000
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,280
sarah that was a lot of fun yeah

1001
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,359
absolutely absolutely and you were there

1002
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,069
yeah all that was all day and uh this

1003
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,680
was interesting because i could tell

1004
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:11,680
that uh sarah was i don't know that

1005
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,319
sarah knew that the game plan was that

1006
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,640
when i do my road trips i st whenever i

1007
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,560
want to stop i stop and if there's

1008
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,240
something i see or something that gets

1009
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:22,160
my curiosity i'll pull over and i'll get

1010
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,520
out of the car and i'll go look at it

1011
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,280
whatever it's not ridiculous like every

1012
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,720
30 minutes but

1013
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:28,400
i weren't i told ryan says this is the

1014
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,839
deal bro we're going to be stopping at

1015
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,520
places and i said don't don't please

1016
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,200
don't try to rush me out of anything i

1017
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,440
said this is how i do my research and

1018
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,599
and so anyway so sarah sarah's with us

1019
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,720
and i could just tell that she was

1020
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,160
getting kind of tired and worn out from

1021
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:41,440
getting in out of the car for three

1022
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,640
hours straight

1023
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,640
and so the original plan was that we

1024
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:46,960
were gonna camp we're gonna go to these

1025
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:49,760
these uh spots and camp out and if and

1026
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:51,359
sarah sarah's like

1027
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,160
well you know can we just get airbnb and

1028
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,240
and i'll pay for it and i'm like yeah

1029
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,560
sure let's do the airbnb thing so so we

1030
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,960
we did the airbnb thing uh thing three

1031
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,480
days in a row and that was that took us

1032
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,880
three days to get up to vernal which

1033
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:06,319
we could talk about that too which was

1034
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,560
kind of fun ladies need their granite

1035
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,800
countertops man and

1036
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,000
you know you don't have granite

1037
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,400
countertops in the uh

1038
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,520
in the awakening van you know so that's

1039
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,520
just the way it is

1040
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:21,040
and you know granite is not afraid to

1041
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,880
spend money so we know whenever we went

1042
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,119
on the uh on the airbnb thing it was we

1043
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:26,880
would look she would just find the best

1044
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,319
place it wasn't about trying to save

1045
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,880
money it was you know if if it cost 200

1046
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,240
a night we just split it three ways

1047
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,760
which was no big deal it's like okay

1048
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,760
let's do this you know and we thought we

1049
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,000
stayed in some great spots uh and moab

1050
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,920
is beautiful there's uh oh you went to

1051
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,680
another lab driving through the valley

1052
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,000
of the giants i highly recommend anybody

1053
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,760
that ever gets a chance to travel to

1054
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,319
utah you must drive through the valley

1055
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:50,800
of the giants it's the most epic

1056
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:54,000
rock structure castle formations and

1057
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:55,599
it's a dirt road and you go through this

1058
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,240
dirt road for about 17 miles literally

1059
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,920
you're off the grid you've got no cell

1060
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,880
service

1061
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,800
and you get to see things that you will

1062
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,040
not see anywhere else and and that was a

1063
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,520
thrill okay so it took you three days to

1064
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:09,119
get to your destination which means you

1065
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,839
had three nights on the road

1066
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,599
uh

1067
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,680
what did you guys see at night now

1068
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,079
you've got all of your gear with you

1069
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,640
you've got you've got night vision right

1070
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,280
what else did you take with you

1071
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,640
that's pretty much it the night vision

1072
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,119
the binoculars raw had his

1073
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:30,000
uh monocular and uh recording device so

1074
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,280
we were really equipped um

1075
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,520
what was interesting though is uh we

1076
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:37,440
were so tired from driving and getting

1077
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,720
out and doing our thing during the

1078
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:40,240
daytime that when night time rolled

1079
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,280
around

1080
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:43,119
um it was just let's just eat dinner and

1081
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,640
we just went to bed i mean we didn't do

1082
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,160
any sky watching

1083
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:49,359
monday tuesday monday or tuesday night

1084
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,000
okay the sky watching didn't start until

1085
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,920
the main event that we'll talk about

1086
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:56,240
okay but yeah no sky watching uh you

1087
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:57,599
know we were just hanging out telling

1088
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,720
stories uh talking and having fun and uh

1089
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,079
that was that was a lot of fun just

1090
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,920
hanging out with those guys and you know

1091
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,520
telling stories and things like let's

1092
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:08,240
start to get to the action then uh uh

1093
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,520
the first stop uh well i mean the first

1094
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,079
destination was

1095
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,160
vernal well the

1096
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:18,240
well that was the the third night you

1097
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,599
want to get right to the third night

1098
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,760
well did anything happen on the second

1099
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,359
night

1100
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,000
well no one thing i will say that was an

1101
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,000
eye-opener for me is we drove through

1102
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,760
this indian reservation i think it was

1103
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,960
the navajo

1104
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,400
uh and

1105
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:35,280
we one of the airbnbs that we had like

1106
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:36,000
was

1107
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,440
reservation because we i wanted to be

1108
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,440
kind of off the grid as much as possible

1109
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,599
so that if anything did go down we'd you

1110
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,359
know we'd have a good view of it without

1111
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:47,839
any uh light obstruction and so we were

1112
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,839
driving through this neighborhood and

1113
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,079
there's chain-link fences all around

1114
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:54,079
this entire neighborhood in this little

1115
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:56,000
uh indian

1116
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,280
uh you know

1117
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,440
village whatever it was it was like a

1118
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,599
little track track homes

1119
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,920
and i thought to myself why are why are

1120
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:05,440
all these why literally i mean the

1121
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:08,000
entire neighborhood not just part of it

1122
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,040
was fenced off with six foot tall chain

1123
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,880
link fence and i thought this would be

1124
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:15,040
like a really dangerous area man why are

1125
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,400
we staying here

1126
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:18,079
and then uh we asked some people that

1127
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,920
lived in town there and the people there

1128
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,920
are so worried about someone coming into

1129
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,160
their neighborhood with covid

1130
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,680
that they've literally

1131
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,520
chained them you know blocked themselves

1132
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,760
in and they they've got those people so

1133
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,520
freaked out about covet out there that

1134
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,880
they're not allowed to have uh get

1135
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,119
together they can't have any uh sarah

1136
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:37,119
got really upset about all this she got

1137
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:39,040
really emotional and she's actually i

1138
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,480
think she did a show about it she's even

1139
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,640
making a donation because those people

1140
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,000
out there on the reservation those

1141
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,400
indian folks they are not uh they're

1142
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,400
having a tough time right now that was

1143
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:50,000
that was the kind of an eye-opener for

1144
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,839
that one day of traveling around and

1145
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,240
seeing that and and kind of we we feel

1146
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,599
kind of lucky and privileged that we're

1147
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,880
getting to do what we do but these

1148
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:58,559
people are stuck they don't have any

1149
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,119
food out there uh you could see their

1150
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,200
horses and their and their cattle are

1151
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,720
all skinny

1152
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,319
um it was sad

1153
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,920
anyway we'll just i just want to mention

1154
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,520
that because it was it just you know it

1155
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,280
was sad it was a tough run right through

1156
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:13,839
there okay and then uh yeah that is sad

1157
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:16,640
i didn't know about that uh so then yeah

1158
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,880
the next night you arrive in vernal utah

1159
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,720
yeah so this was this is where it was

1160
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,400
interesting because uh

1161
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,960
we were we had been driving all day and

1162
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:27,680
we

1163
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:33,359
sell signal for about two or three hours

1164
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,480
driving through the mountains so we

1165
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,559
couldn't go online and try to find a

1166
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:38,400
place to stay we're just trying to get

1167
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,920
as close to the vernal as we could and

1168
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,920
then pull over and then decide what

1169
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,400
we're going to do so so we pull over

1170
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,400
we're not quite in vernal yet and uh

1171
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:48,400
we're looking at the airbnbs and we find

1172
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:51,440
this one place way out there in this uh

1173
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,280
kind of a ranchers area where there's

1174
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,800
not really a lot of homes it's just kind

1175
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:56,000
of out in the middle of nowhere in this

1176
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:57,440
flat land area

1177
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,000
but uh but it's got the view of all the

1178
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,520
mountains all around and there's no

1179
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:03,520
light and uh you know there's no street

1180
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,880
lights and there's nobody that lives out

1181
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,920
there i mean the next neighbor is

1182
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,319
probably like five acres away okay so uh

1183
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,319
we jumped on that place and jumped on

1184
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,319
that place so what happened

1185
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,480
what happened so we got there uh we get

1186
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,000
there and

1187
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:17,920
and this is where i'm glad sarah came

1188
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:20,079
because had sarah not come uh we

1189
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,359
wouldn't have stayed there because it

1190
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,520
was we were we're going to camp so so i

1191
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,000
give credit to sarah because uh okay

1192
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,440
what happened that night may not have

1193
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,119
happened otherwise so we got there uh

1194
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:31,040
we're cooking up hamburgers right

1195
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,559
getting we're making dinner it's not

1196
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,640
quite dark yet it's i don't know what 7

1197
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,720
30 8 o'clock it's the sunset but it's

1198
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,720
not it's still a little bit of light out

1199
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,400
and i just had this thought in my head

1200
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:42,079
where you know i'm just going to go out

1201
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,599
in this back porch and just kind of look

1202
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,680
around and just see what i see

1203
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,920
so i walk out the back porch

1204
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,520
looking out in the sky out in the

1205
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,520
mountains out on over the field and all

1206
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,680
of a sudden this and this isn't very far

1207
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,559
away this is probably maybe uh two or

1208
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,400
three football fields away

1209
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:01,599
hovering over the ground maybe

1210
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,720
10 or 20 feet not very far this light

1211
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,559
just pops on

1212
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:08,319
and i thought oh here we go i'm thinking

1213
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,520
in my head and so i i had my phone in my

1214
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,920
hand like i always do and i put my phone

1215
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,440
up to take a picture of it and it just

1216
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,720
blinks off

1217
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,640
and i thought okay this is legit here

1218
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,319
this is really happening this isn't just

1219
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,720
this is this is this is happening

1220
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:24,319
and so i said raw you got to come out

1221
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,760
here you got to see this there's lights

1222
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,839
already going on popping off out here

1223
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,280
and he didn't hear me he was in there

1224
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:31,680
cooking up the hamburgers so so again

1225
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,680
the light pops on again and i'm looking

1226
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,359
at this thing and again i try to take a

1227
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,240
picture of it and again it goes off so i

1228
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:40,480
says okay i got to go get raw he's got

1229
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:42,079
to see this somebody else has got to see

1230
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:43,599
this i can't be the only one that's seen

1231
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,000
this so i go in the house i said raw get

1232
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,000
your gear get get your night vision get

1233
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,480
your cameras put the hamburger down i

1234
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:52,240
said the lights are coming on and off

1235
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:53,599
out here you need to see this we need to

1236
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,640
film this

1237
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,559
come on now so he he hustles it up he

1238
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:58,160
goes out there we're in the back as

1239
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,839
we're going out the back door back out

1240
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,680
to the to the back patio again this time

1241
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,680
i've got my phone on i've got the camera

1242
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,240
mode on i have my finger on the button

1243
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:09,040
to push photo so i can click the picture

1244
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,640
and as soon as we come around the corner

1245
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,319
there's the light again and boom i

1246
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,319
snapped a picture of it and i posted

1247
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,240
that picture uh i don't know three weeks

1248
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:17,680
ago or whatever that night it was on the

1249
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,480
9th what it was of september and that

1250
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,079
was a pretty trippy object it didn't

1251
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,240
look like a saucer didn't look like a

1252
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,640
triangle it had this kind of strange

1253
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,280
shape to it um

1254
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,960
but it was there and we saw it and he

1255
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,880
saw it and then i went over and flipped

1256
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,640
it over to video mode because i wanted

1257
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,720
to try to record it and then it turned

1258
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:39,599
off again so raw set up his gear and

1259
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,800
we're all set up and uh a lot happened

1260
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:44,480
at that point i mean you want to ask any

1261
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,920
questions you know i'm

1262
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,839
listening to you we're we're going to

1263
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:49,680
run into the commercial break so what

1264
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:51,599
happened next

1265
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:54,079
okay so the next thing so uh

1266
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,920
so we're looking out in that area where

1267
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,520
that light kept popping on and off and

1268
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,119
nothing's now nothing's happening there

1269
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,359
anymore now now all of a sudden we're

1270
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,920
seeing lights over the mountains

1271
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,440
uh which is in the direction of where

1272
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,440
the blind frog ranch is in la pointe

1273
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,599
utah which is i would say it was about

1274
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,119
probably close to eight to ten miles

1275
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,280
away it was a clear night you can

1276
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:15,119
clearly see the mountains you can see

1277
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,400
the form of the mountains the shape of

1278
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,240
the mountains and and this light you

1279
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,760
would see beyond the mountain you would

1280
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,839
see this light like coming up you

1281
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,119
wouldn't actually see the light but you

1282
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:25,119
could see the glow of the light coming

1283
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:26,079
up

1284
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:29,359
and there it would be just hovering in

1285
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,359
that area

1286
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,880
this time these things were not going

1287
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,960
off they were just staying lit and so

1288
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,440
ross ross filming this i'm filming it

1289
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,200
i'm taking pictures

1290
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,799
and we're like getting excited because

1291
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:42,640
we know now that this is okay this the

1292
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,440
show's on so we're looking at this thing

1293
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,200
and this kept happening this must have

1294
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,920
happened for 10 or 15 minutes

1295
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,359
then

1296
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,880
to the left there was like these two

1297
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,640
little mounds

1298
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:57,040
like uh right and left so this most of

1299
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,400
this was happening in this little right

1300
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:59,920
mound area then all of a sudden this

1301
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:02,000
left mound area here comes this other

1302
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,599
light popping up over the mountains just

1303
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,520
like the one on the right side

1304
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,799
and now this thing's just kind of

1305
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,960
hovering up there

1306
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,559
and then this really tripped me out

1307
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:12,640
because then all of a sudden i see what

1308
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:15,599
looked like three lights uh in a row

1309
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:17,119
side by side

1310
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,240
um

1311
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,760
coming from the left to the right

1312
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,920
towards this light

1313
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,839
and then it gets pretty close to it and

1314
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,520
then it just stops

1315
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:27,440
so you've got this main light just lit

1316
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,799
up and you've got these three lights

1317
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,400
sitting there just kind of

1318
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,839
it looked like it was checking out the

1319
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,880
big light

1320
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,880
and then and then it just kind of slowly

1321
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,680
moves past the big light stops as it

1322
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,119
goes beyond it

1323
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:41,359
then then reverses itself

1324
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:43,040
and then takes off and then it and then

1325
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,559
it's gone

1326
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,319
wow so now this big breath this big this

1327
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:48,079
yeah it was that blew my mind actually

1328
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,839
because that was like whatever that was

1329
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,520
i have no idea what that was because

1330
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:52,799
that didn't make any sense it just

1331
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:55,040
didn't add up in my head so now this

1332
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,400
other this light's still there it's

1333
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,559
still on it's never gone off it's never

1334
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,480
moved it's just sitting there

1335
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,400
and then to the right of the light this

1336
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:04,880
little red light the so if the big light

1337
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,079
imagine like the size of uh a quarter

1338
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,760
and then this little red light that was

1339
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,160
maybe half the size of a dime just pops

1340
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,839
on right next to it on the right hand

1341
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,720
side

1342
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,559
and i'm going and then in my videos

1343
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,359
you'll hear me i i use some uh some some

1344
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,119
words that i won't say on your show but

1345
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,520
anyway i'm like oh here we go and so so

1346
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,000
then that red light goes off

1347
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:27,920
and then on the left side of the of the

1348
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,400
light the main light it pops back on so

1349
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,839
it's first it's on the right side now

1350
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,359
it's on the left side and i filmed all

1351
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,520
that so i've got that on video

1352
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,599
um so that that's what happened so that

1353
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,359
was all going on

1354
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,680
uh for probably 20 30 minutes we're

1355
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:43,119
seeing all sorts of little strange

1356
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,359
things happening we're excited

1357
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:47,280
and then uh we're looking out to the

1358
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,079
left far far left now away from the main

1359
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,920
mountains there's a whole nother set of

1360
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:53,680
mountains to the left

1361
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,280
and uh raw spots this

1362
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,200
shape light

1363
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:01,680
and uh and i've got my brand new samsung

1364
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,559
galaxy s 2100 times zoom i zoom in on

1365
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:06,799
this thing i go wow that is a freaking

1366
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:09,760
triangle man this thing is it's lit up

1367
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,160
and it's and it's kind of it's not going

1368
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,480
off and on but it's kind of pulsating

1369
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:15,920
and you saw it on the video but this

1370
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,599
thing's pulsating

1371
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,440
and uh raw filmed this thing on his

1372
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,960
monocular i don't know for at least two

1373
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,640
or three minutes i i filmed it for at

1374
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:24,160
least a minute and a half

1375
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,200
um you could see these other uh

1376
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,119
triangle looking

1377
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,839
more softer dimmer lights closer to the

1378
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,119
mountain

1379
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,440
uh the main triangle was way above the

1380
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,200
mountain so there so i don't know what

1381
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:39,520
that thing was um

1382
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,960
i couldn't tell you but i've never seen

1383
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:42,400
anything like that before that was a

1384
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,319
first for me seeing those those those

1385
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:45,359
lights

1386
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:48,400
uh so at that point uh we were psyched i

1387
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,839
mean we're stoked the first night we're

1388
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:51,680
there we're already having like major

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sightings

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and so uh

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00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,880
in my mind i'm thinking okay i'm i know

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00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,200
where this is i see it i can go on

1393
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,359
google earth i could find it i could

1394
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,440
find out what mountain that is i can i

1395
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,240
can find out if there's any airports or

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00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,079
whatever kind of businesses or whatever

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00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:10,160
might be over there i can i can research

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00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:10,960
that

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00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:14,880
when i woke up i did some research and i

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00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,760
saw where that was and ironically

1401
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,599
where that light that triangle light was

1402
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:22,559
half was was was pulsating was on the

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00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,280
same road that you drive on to to go out

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00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,920
to the blind frog ranch we didn't know

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00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,440
that that night but that's what i

1406
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,720
figured out later is that's how we're

1407
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,880
gonna because blind frog ranch isn't

1408
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,400
actually in vernal it's in this town

1409
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,640
called la pointe which is next to vernal

1410
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,079
but it's much more

1411
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,640
deeper into the mountainous uh wooded

1412
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:42,880
area it's way off the grid as opposed to

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00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:44,960
vernal zoo is a neat little town

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00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,079
um so anyway so uh the next day i don't

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00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,640
know if it was the next day or it might

1416
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,720
have been the well let me uh yeah it was

1417
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,480
the next day well hold on hold on let me

1418
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:56,559
let me jump in because i got to get to a

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00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:57,520
break

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00:59:02,549 --> 00:58:59,839
and then we're going to bring ra in

1421
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:02,559
but what i wanted to ask you uh to be

1422
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:03,680
clear

1423
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,400
roz filming you're filming you've got

1424
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:09,359
multiple sources on this triangle

1425
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:13,599
and so was it a triangle in his video in

1426
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,400
a triangle in yours

1427
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:19,440
absolutely now was it a triangle with

1428
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,950
i would say i couldn't i could see the

1429
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:29,440
the object with the naked eye as you

1430
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:31,200
know i don't have the greatest vision

1431
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,599
but but i couldn't make out the shape of

1432
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,160
it because this it had to be at least 10

1433
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,799
miles that mountain range okay i'm going

1434
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,240
to guess it could have been more or less

1435
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:42,240
10 miles away so yeah i mean we had i've

1436
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,319
got the five times zoom on my night

1437
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,160
vision raw's got the zoom on his

1438
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,240
monocular i mean we were able to zoom

1439
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,920
right in on that thing i mean

1440
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:52,000
like almost like like as if it was just

1441
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,520
a few hundred yards away that's how

1442
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,280
close we were able to zoom in on it okay

1443
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:56,880
very interesting okay let's take our

1444
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:58,960
break right here when we come back after

1445
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,480
this break raw is going to join us

1446
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,000
tonight it is

1447
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,640
awakening man and rob we are discussing

1448
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:08,400
their recent road trip

1449
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,599
to utah and beyond so you just stay

1450
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,960
right there it's gonna be a great night

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01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:15,599
tonight on the show lots of things

1452
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,920
happened

1453
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,400
eric's been posting stuff uh for the

1454
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:22,160
last two weeks okay

1455
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:24,160
raj just texted me said he's ready to go

1456
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:27,090
i'll be right back this is fade to black

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01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,240
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1559
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:49,190
welcome back faded black i am your host

1560
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:50,720
jimmy church

1561
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:54,559
tonight it's road trip week

1562
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:56,480
tonight it's road trip number one

1563
01:06:02,309 --> 01:05:58,799
awakening man eric

1564
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:02,319
and arturus ra join us uh tonight and we

1565
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:04,480
just heard from eric and i would like to

1566
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,520
welcome back to fade to black arturis ra

1567
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:09,520
and uh he

1568
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:11,839
i'm gonna say a few things about ra he's

1569
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:14,240
awakened to his purpose he shares his

1570
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:16,160
personal activation or remembrance of

1571
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,000
being an arcturian scientist and

1572
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:20,079
starfleet commander he shares his

1573
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:21,440
knowledge of the mysteries of the

1574
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:24,720
universe how to bio-hack yourself into

1575
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,119
seeing other dimensions where we go at

1576
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:29,680
night and where we sleep and i've got

1577
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,119
some raw hardware here uh i was going to

1578
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:35,920
break it out uh i'll do it i'll do it in

1579
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:38,079
a bit i want to welcome back to fade to

1580
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:40,400
black uh arturous raw ra how are you

1581
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:42,319
doing tonight my man

1582
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:43,839
i'm excellent can you hear me everything

1583
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:46,799
clear yeah you and you look fantastic

1584
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:48,000
that's that's

1585
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,520
you know that's what's most important

1586
01:06:51,290 --> 01:06:50,799
right

1587
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,300
well yeah

1588
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:52,880
[Laughter]

1589
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:54,880
looks as everything in this galaxy abs

1590
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,039
absolutely and we've got uh eric

1591
01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:59,520
awakening man with this too as well

1592
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:00,640
and uh

1593
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:04,240
i i want to uh jump ahead uh

1594
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:05,839
uh on this trip

1595
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:08,640
um eric was just telling us about that

1596
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,839
first night at uh the airbnb uh when you

1597
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:14,240
were trying to cook hamburgers and he

1598
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,680
pulled you out of the house and said

1599
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:17,760
there's some stuff jumping off

1600
01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:20,720
and you got your gear out and you guys

1601
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:23,359
are are filming this action

1602
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:26,240
uh above the mountain to your right uh

1603
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,680
and that's pretty amazing i can't wait

1604
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:29,520
to see these videos

1605
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,160
uh once uh those are put together and

1606
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:34,000
then he was telling us that you guys

1607
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:36,799
swung everything over to the left

1608
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:39,359
and that's where uh you guys saw these

1609
01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:43,200
triangles one main triangle um and you

1610
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,680
caught this on video i've seen the video

1611
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,760
i wanted to ask you about that for a

1612
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,440
second what were you what were you

1613
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:51,680
thinking and did you see

1614
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:54,160
was the triangle a triangle to the naked

1615
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,160
eye or was this only in the night vision

1616
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,400
so um eric said that he could see a

1617
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,119
triangle with the naked eye i think

1618
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:05,520
that's what we we saw with the naked eye

1619
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:06,880
a triangle

1620
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,799
it was faint but then with the uh but

1621
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:12,960
the night vision device enhanced it was

1622
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,280
a triangle pointing somewhat in the

1623
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:17,600
direction sky and hovering

1624
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:20,080
over vernal over the city i'm like that

1625
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:21,839
nobody else could see this it was this

1626
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:23,359
brightest day

1627
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:25,600
it would flare up it would flash it

1628
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:26,960
would move it would disappear it would

1629
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:29,759
reappear and we have prime recordings

1630
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:31,199
with like six thousand dollar night

1631
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:33,279
vision device like not not knowing some

1632
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,319
okie doke stuff really prime 4k

1633
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:39,040
recording with the iphone from these

1634
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:42,319
things are vacuum tubes very precise so

1635
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,679
the direction

1636
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:45,839
where the sightings came in and props to

1637
01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:48,319
eric for that he called it first and i

1638
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:49,839
was thinking

1639
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,640
yeah maybe it's a lot it's a star

1640
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,480
because you know it's like i want to be

1641
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:56,000
i'm a paranormal experience but i'm

1642
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:58,000
skeptic still so

1643
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:00,239
the direction we would look at from

1644
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:02,080
verna was a people google map that is

1645
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:03,839
the flaming gorge

1646
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,319
direction blind frog ranch or skinwalker

1647
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,400
it's it's it's

1648
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:12,400
a little bit more to the right over the

1649
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,480
map and then you would see those la in

1650
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:16,799
mid sky i'm not talking orbit i'm

1651
01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:19,839
talking past the the line of the rock

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01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,279
they would come

1653
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,199
and what what blew me away and you'll

1654
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:25,600
see the video when i upload uh the next

1655
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,520
show that i'm working on is going to be

1656
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:29,759
just those videos where you would see

1657
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:32,480
let's say a 20 000 watt floodlight like

1658
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,560
for stadiums and i thought that's

1659
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:36,640
hovering behind the mountain

1660
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:38,799
so you would see a light beam behind the

1661
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,960
mountain i'm thinking like maybe it's a

1662
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:42,319
construction site and then you would

1663
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:43,920
think it's stationary but i think moved

1664
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,640
five miles across in two seconds

1665
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:48,960
not going over the mountain and i kept

1666
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,120
dead panning it and eric was like keep

1667
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,480
holding keep holding so i kept the

1668
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:55,120
camera running and that flash that

1669
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:57,280
floodlight from behind the mountain

1670
01:10:03,669 --> 01:09:58,400
covered

1671
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,679
the mountain range which you can clearly

1672
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,040
see you see the mountain lion in the

1673
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,120
video and then the thing stops in mid

1674
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,840
sky a second one appears and a third one

1675
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:11,440
and it's a freaking light show and we

1676
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:12,320
have

1677
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:14,719
several minutes of that action

1678
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,120
where no one else in vernal seem to be

1679
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:18,880
recording this so i'm like that's really

1680
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:20,800
amazing like really very mind-blowing

1681
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,000
fireworks

1682
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:25,199
now um uh we've got a limited time with

1683
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,880
you tonight um but i may keep you longer

1684
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:31,280
if i can't get all of this in because

1685
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:35,360
you and eric and sarah

1686
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,560
did you guys went to blind frog ranch

1687
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,040
did you go to blind frog ranch the next

1688
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:42,640
day

1689
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:47,199
yeah you went okay

1690
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:50,640
so i i'm so into like everybody is right

1691
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,520
now it's all about blind frog ranch

1692
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,440
uh oh my god

1693
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:58,159
oh my god i'm telling you go there yeah

1694
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,440
well it's like there's stuff that you

1695
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:01,600
can't even describe yeah now i'm getting

1696
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:05,040
phone calls uh from you guys while while

1697
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:06,880
you were there um

1698
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:11,120
uh and i was i i wish i was there

1699
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:14,960
um but uh take us to that um

1700
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:18,159
uh uh what what was blind frog ranch

1701
01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:21,440
like uh what were you expecting

1702
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,880
um for me i kept myself open to expect

1703
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,239
everything because i've been the mount

1704
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:28,880
shasta i know paranormal areas when the

1705
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:31,760
grounds are highly magnetic the ions are

1706
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,239
off the chart and the photons this is

1707
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,840
the three things you have to watch in

1708
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,679
those places where something is

1709
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:39,440
emanating from the ground nobody knows

1710
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,000
what it is that has everything spinning

1711
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:44,320
compasses i flew my drone through the

1712
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:45,440
property

1713
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,440
and my drone kept

1714
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:49,920
informing me magnetic interference error

1715
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,280
check your app

1716
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:53,520
all over the property and the magnetics

1717
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,560
were elevated so sleeping there if

1718
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,960
you're not strong i don't recommend it

1719
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,880
because it just keeps you up you just

1720
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:02,560
blitz you need like four hours of sleep

1721
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:03,760
and you don't know what to do with your

1722
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,080
time unless you know how to explore

1723
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,960
paranormal property so that place and

1724
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,800
the lake with its healing powers where

1725
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,480
they dug the well

1726
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,360
people don't know watch the show

1727
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,280
the blind frog ranch show

1728
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:19,199
you see that has healing capacities i

1729
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,080
had a

1730
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,360
punctured you can say sciatica

1731
01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:25,440
so very painful 10 minutes sitting in

1732
01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:27,199
that thing and that pain disappeared you

1733
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:28,719
know not 100

1734
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:31,280
but the massive pain disappeared and

1735
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:32,400
every day

1736
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,840
we were longer on the property you feel

1737
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:37,199
disoriented your brain is kind of like

1738
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,800
swimming you know you feel all over the

1739
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,040
place but that is because of that place

1740
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:43,520
our friend jeff who was with us

1741
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,640
um his battery went basically or dead it

1742
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:48,719
got discharged mine went fifty percent

1743
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:49,760
less

1744
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:51,440
but i have tricks to

1745
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,159
avoid you from being affected from that

1746
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:56,239
dimension so i have gadgets you can

1747
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,520
attach to stuff when you go into

1748
01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:59,760
paranormal devices

1749
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,080
sarah got knocked out like a big up and

1750
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:04,640
respected sarah adams she had to

1751
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,760
immediately contact with et's and grace

1752
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,679
went into the astral realm so she had to

1753
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,239
basically lay down and leave her body

1754
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:13,760
first i thought she was sick but she was

1755
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:15,199
like i gotta lay down there's something

1756
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,640
going on um so she laid down there was a

1757
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,480
cosmic battle apparently that we are in

1758
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:22,719
the midst of and she tapped into it

1759
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:25,120
establishing communication while eric

1760
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,800
and i kind of surveyed the land and

1761
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:28,400
measured the physical effects of what's

1762
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:30,159
actually happening to us what's going on

1763
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,239
here what have we experiencing and how

1764
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:34,800
do you make that explainable right and

1765
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:38,719
uh eric um uh listening to this

1766
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:39,600
um

1767
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:41,840
this was your first trip to blind frog

1768
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:43,840
ranch too as well

1769
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,120
um and i i think they they delayed the

1770
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:49,440
uh history channel discovery one of the

1771
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:50,640
networks

1772
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:54,159
was their filming and then discovery uh

1773
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:55,600
discovery channel

1774
01:14:01,669 --> 01:14:00,560
weren't filming when you were there but

1775
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:01,679
their

1776
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:06,400
base camp right eric

1777
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:09,280
yeah and that we actually the i don't

1778
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,280
know if luck is the right word but the

1779
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:13,679
the stars were aligned because uh

1780
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:15,280
somebody apparently had gotten sick in

1781
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:16,800
the film crew and they were concerned

1782
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,400
about the covet so they shut down

1783
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:20,960
production had that not happened we

1784
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:22,320
would not have been able to stay there

1785
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:23,679
for three days because they had tight

1786
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,520
security there even the security guys

1787
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,600
that were there that got to know us and

1788
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:30,400
we chatted with i mean they watched us

1789
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:31,840
they watched us and the other thing i

1790
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:33,520
wanted to mention about raw is when he

1791
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,120
was talking about the

1792
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:37,280
the the magnetics uh he has this device

1793
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,719
i don't know what it's called but he was

1794
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,400
measuring the magnetics

1795
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,560
and i even recorded it and took pictures

1796
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:44,880
and video of the machine well as it was

1797
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,440
fluctuating so this is not just raw

1798
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,840
making stuff up there really is some

1799
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:51,760
some fluctuations in the energy there

1800
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:53,040
and there was a few times where we were

1801
01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:54,880
hiking at the very peak of the mountain

1802
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,320
where i would be up there and just feel

1803
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,000
fine and then i would step over about

1804
01:15:02,229 --> 01:15:00,560
four or five feet into this one area and

1805
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:02,239
all of a sudden i was dizzy and felt

1806
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:04,320
woozy and i had to stop and i lost my

1807
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,440
breath

1808
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,600
it was weird so i had raw but then i

1809
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,199
just want to throw that in okay so you

1810
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:11,440
guys were able to camp you guys camped

1811
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,040
at blind frog

1812
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:14,880
right right that's exactly like oh yeah

1813
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,560
yeah yeah we slept at that blindfold

1814
01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:18,800
which was very intense for me i don't

1815
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,960
know

1816
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,880
explain that in detail we didn't speak

1817
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:24,080
about it on the way back because he

1818
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,000
continued his trip but it was very

1819
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,480
intense to attend streams vivid dreams

1820
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,719
lucid dreams i heard a big voice

1821
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,719
screaming at me in atlanta

1822
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,000
i don't even know how to begin to

1823
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:36,239
translate but there's a lot of stuff

1824
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,960
moving about at night that must be

1825
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,480
interdimensional that you can't

1826
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,560
physically see but you uh even if you're

1827
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:44,159
a skeptic i'm telling you

1828
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:44,960
you

1829
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,280
feel something

1830
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:49,280
there's something happening that you

1831
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,640
your senses are not enough to detect

1832
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,080
in a

1833
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,679
in detail what's all the things that are

1834
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:57,760
going on right right right this is

1835
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,719
fascinating to me what what happened uh

1836
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,560
you guys broke out the gear you're at

1837
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:04,800
blind frog at night

1838
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:08,080
this isn't too far from where you guys

1839
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:10,640
uh uh filmed the triangles uh the night

1840
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,239
before yeah this is all around vernal um

1841
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:16,080
what happened that night

1842
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:17,360
in the skies

1843
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:21,280
so the the so the first i was strangest

1844
01:16:24,149 --> 01:16:22,159
thing

1845
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,159
is you know i always

1846
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:26,000
are able to i'm able to capture stuff

1847
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,679
and if it's a plane just to see

1848
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:29,440
something in the night sky but the first

1849
01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:31,760
night we went there i psychically got

1850
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,159
the impulse shut down there's nothing

1851
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:36,880
going on like zero as if it as if the

1852
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,440
entire sky is on embargo lockdown

1853
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:41,760
control and nothing happened the first

1854
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:43,040
night like

1855
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:44,560
this yes

1856
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:45,440
okay

1857
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,030
just let me just say real quick that we

1858
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,719
climbed to the highest peak on that on

1859
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,719
that mountain that's a blind frog and we

1860
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,400
were both pretty confident that we're

1861
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:00,239
that where we were filming those lights

1862
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,960
the night before from the airbnb we knew

1863
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:04,400
the valley that those lights were

1864
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:06,640
emerging from in my opinion right and we

1865
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,719
were focused on that area trying to see

1866
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,719
if we would see those lights again and

1867
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:11,920
not a peep

1868
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,880
nothing

1869
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:14,080
that's strange

1870
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:16,960
and uh

1871
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:19,520
okay so you get through the night then

1872
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:23,280
um and the next day was there

1873
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,390
yeah

1874
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:31,840
do you want to tell raw about the about

1875
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,760
the drive-in over the driving over the

1876
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:35,679
river and him showing us the structures

1877
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,679
raw you want to talk about that

1878
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:40,239
yeah so dwayne basically got us in uh

1879
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,199
halfway up with my suv i got stuck in a

1880
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:45,520
rain trench and and dwayne pulled me up

1881
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,600
i was doing i was with two wheels in the

1882
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,280
air i think eric has pictures it looks

1883
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,600
hilarious sarah was like i'm getting out

1884
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:54,000
the car this is too much because it

1885
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:55,840
looked like a rollover i'm like if this

1886
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,320
is rolling over then this is not going

1887
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:00,480
to be good so uh but

1888
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:02,880
we tackled the situation and then duane

1889
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:05,440
drove up to us which would i would call

1890
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:07,360
an et marker

1891
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,480
and then the t marker is like imagine

1892
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:12,480
that the ets and these are the downloads

1893
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:14,719
that i've been receiving and even before

1894
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:17,520
prior to the visit that ets have crafts

1895
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:19,120
they in ancient times they would

1896
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,560
terraform

1897
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,159
to mark spots

1898
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,239
either there were a lot of minerals or

1899
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,480
meteor there's reasons where certain

1900
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:28,320
crafts would dock they have their

1901
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:29,360
reasons

1902
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:32,080
and this et marker i looked at and i'm

1903
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,760
like this is not a natural formation

1904
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,360
like if you really have a keen eye and

1905
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:37,360
you look at the thing you look at the

1906
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,800
rock and you walk to the side and from

1907
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,199
the side with the sun at the right angle

1908
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,960
and even your camera's face detection

1909
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:46,800
would detect the face you see a sleeping

1910
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:48,159
et

1911
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,880
deep how far

1912
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,960
i don't know but this is a marker for

1913
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:02,560
when a craft comes and let's say you

1914
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:03,760
have a computer that can map the

1915
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,920
landscape it's easy to find that but for

1916
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:07,679
the untrained eye and people who walk

1917
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,120
through the desert you're just seeing

1918
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:11,840
another rock with the few caves but this

1919
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,560
was the place where eric walked on top

1920
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:16,320
and there were there were spots where

1921
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:18,239
you would really get dizzy

1922
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:21,040
very intense and disoriented and feel

1923
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,640
weird and then you walk a few steps

1924
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,480
further and then you clear and nobody

1925
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:26,320
can explain that well i say that because

1926
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:28,159
it's interdimensional

1927
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,080
and if you have the side and the sensory

1928
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:31,760
perception you know that this is an

1929
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:34,800
extraterrestrial marker terraformed

1930
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:37,440
maybe millions of years ago to remind

1931
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:39,280
you whatever survey crew that's coming

1932
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,719
back to check that that they will find

1933
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,080
that place again that's like the

1934
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:43,840
download that i received

1935
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,159
very interesting uh eric did you get the

1936
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:48,480
same vibe

1937
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,800
yeah well even before that when we drove

1938
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:52,719
in uh there's this little river that you

1939
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,280
got to cross over and uh as we crossed

1940
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:57,520
over then we were in this quad uh four

1941
01:20:01,750 --> 01:19:59,679
wheel drive quad unit that uh

1942
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,760
i actually was lucky because um he's i

1943
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:03,679
was ready to take my van over this river

1944
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:05,840
and just go up the mountain like raw did

1945
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,760
and and he told me three times i don't

1946
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:08,960
think you should do that dwayne was

1947
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,239
telling me i don't think that's a good

1948
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:12,320
idea and finally i said okay i'll leave

1949
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:14,639
the van here so i hopped in the in the

1950
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:18,080
quad and i just i put the video on and i

1951
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,440
recorded the whole thing and we were

1952
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,120
having a conversation i've got all that

1953
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:22,960
on video i'm not gonna i'm not allowed

1954
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,560
to release that because

1955
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,400
uh he's got the contract with the

1956
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,719
discovery channel so uh this is stuff

1957
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:30,239
maybe after the discovery channel is

1958
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:32,080
done with their show this particular

1959
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,600
series and maybe i could

1960
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,440
put some of that stuff out but anyway so

1961
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:37,600
we pull over this area

1962
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:38,400
and

1963
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:44,000
tree structures that we're going to talk

1964
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:45,440
a lot about tonight at least i'm going

1965
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:46,639
to talk about the bigfoot tree

1966
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,760
structures

1967
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,760
and they're all intertwined and you've

1968
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:51,920
got these pieces of of logs and wood

1969
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:53,679
that are kind of broken and you just

1970
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:55,600
know it didn't fall that way and and

1971
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:57,040
there's no humans that are up there you

1972
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:59,040
know playing uh playing tree structure

1973
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,639
games i mean this looked to me like what

1974
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,400
i've seen in my own research as a

1975
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,800
bigfoot structure uh we saw two of these

1976
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,719
structures while we're there well when

1977
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:08,400
you say structure

1978
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:11,440
okay eric um let me stop you there let

1979
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:15,440
me swing this over to raw when eric says

1980
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:17,840
uh a tree structure

1981
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:20,320
what did you see rock eric will see

1982
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,910
whatever he wants to see

1983
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:23,760
[Laughter]

1984
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:26,320
okay so but rob what i like about eric

1985
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,840
eric is a skeptic like he's like you

1986
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,920
wanna you you wanna be sm he's like come

1987
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,760
on man like he's he's gonna investigate

1988
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:35,600
and he's gonna go in so the structure

1989
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:38,320
that we saw and when people tell me you

1990
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:40,880
man man-made then i laugh what we saw

1991
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:42,960
was literally three

1992
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:43,760
three

1993
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,880
trees

1994
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,120
at the size of i don't know two or three

1995
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:49,280
times your body in with

1996
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:51,920
ripped from the stump broken off and

1997
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:54,639
then logged in a bush

1998
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:57,120
uh with some some heavy heavy tree

1999
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,600
arrangement placed

2000
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,360
over there

2001
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,360
not like some are like teepees but what

2002
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,920
we saw was like wild just a pile of big

2003
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,440
ass trees that somebody snapped like

2004
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:10,080
toothpicks and you have to be 600 or 700

2005
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:11,840
pounds

2006
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:14,239
and have to have a size to do that right

2007
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,159
because when the wind blows you cannot

2008
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,800
tell me that six trees from every angle

2009
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,880
fall in an intersection that creates

2010
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,320
something that looks like a construct

2011
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,560
that you find nowhere in the forest

2012
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:26,800
nowhere we found more of those after and

2013
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,080
i didn't even know

2014
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,000
that bigfoot would bleed so much into

2015
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:32,159
ufo territory like

2016
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:33,920
right right get away from once you're in

2017
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:36,320
ufo territory your bigfoot territory

2018
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,480
that it goes hand in hand

2019
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,400
now no question i agree this was a

2020
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,920
structure created by something that

2021
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,840
wasn't human yeah and what do you think

2022
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,000
absolutely uh what do you think this

2023
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,639
structure is for i mean is it is it a

2024
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,639
habitat

2025
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:52,880
so here's here's a few things for the

2026
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:55,760
for the squatches that we learned these

2027
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:58,000
are markers for territory

2028
01:23:01,510 --> 01:22:59,679
but i believe they're not only markers

2029
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,520
in the woods i believe these are

2030
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:03,760
interdimensional markers because

2031
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,880
these dudes go between two worlds

2032
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:09,040
they have um we have stories like they

2033
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:10,560
go from one forest to another but they

2034
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:11,760
have to be marcus so they have the

2035
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:14,639
orientation of am i on earth too or am i

2036
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:16,320
on earth one that's what i'm getting you

2037
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:17,760
want to investigate get a book that's

2038
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,760
called dwell of two planets that

2039
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:21,840
explains how that works that book was

2040
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:25,280
channeled in 1846 i think so these are

2041
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,199
markers that show you our territory our

2042
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:32,320
texas that will tell you stay out

2043
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,400
and the pro told us what uh what i've

2044
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:36,159
kept putting together over the years but

2045
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,320
i never spoke about it is when they're

2046
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:40,480
cloaked and the eyes are red they're

2047
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:42,880
pissed at you you're pissing them off

2048
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,040
when the eyes are amber they scanning

2049
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:47,760
your intent your aura your soul your

2050
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,320
priority and how light spirits that you

2051
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,480
are

2052
01:23:56,629 --> 01:23:54,400
so amber when they're white and when

2053
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:56,639
they're white

2054
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:59,440
yeah that was my next question so white

2055
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:00,719
is

2056
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:05,360
cool right right yeah you're fine well

2057
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,080
amber amber would be cool too right

2058
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:10,480
you're just being checked out yeah

2059
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:11,600
red

2060
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:14,560
shoot us you're trying to kill us or

2061
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:15,520
you're trying to make contact and

2062
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,280
observe and be friendly

2063
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:19,440
you know yeah red you get in the car and

2064
01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:21,840
you drive back to the airbnb and watch

2065
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:24,159
netflix yes

2066
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:26,080
got it

2067
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:30,560
how many of these uh

2068
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:31,760
that's the crew

2069
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,480
that's a good rule that's a good rule um

2070
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:36,480
it's kind of like red light green light

2071
01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:37,760
you know the game that you play when

2072
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:40,800
you're a kid um yeah yeah right

2073
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,520
so

2074
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:44,400
how many of these uh structures okay did

2075
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,920
you guys find or hear or see

2076
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:49,840
bigfoot while you guys were at blind

2077
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,679
frog

2078
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:53,520
so um i must say something and then let

2079
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:54,960
eric

2080
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:55,679
uh

2081
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:56,800
chime in

2082
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:00,080
we saw we heard bigfoot and sensed him

2083
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:03,199
at the end of my trip before eric went

2084
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,239
further from from vernal to to montana

2085
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:08,239
so the last day we went up to a place

2086
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:09,840
where a professional who had a

2087
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:12,800
relationship for 40 years with them who

2088
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:15,520
had physical contact

2089
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:16,719
physically

2090
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,560
healed them he showed us the territory

2091
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,480
so we saw a lot more of those structures

2092
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:25,280
deep deep in the birch woods in of

2093
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:26,400
ashley park

2094
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:29,760
a national park um of uh utah vernal

2095
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:31,360
now what did uh

2096
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:32,400
uh

2097
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:39,679
are we still on the blind frog because i

2098
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,560
personally didn't hear any uh

2099
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,400
any bigfoot type sounds at the blind

2100
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:46,960
frog raw might have but i didn't uh but

2101
01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:49,040
but and we did see i saw we saw two

2102
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:50,480
structures that

2103
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,159
to me look like they would be bigfoot

2104
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:55,199
structures and then raw had his uh

2105
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:56,320
his uh

2106
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,760
what was that thing the drone thing he

2107
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:59,120
was flying around

2108
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,199
and so i was hiking around while he was

2109
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:03,280
drowning filming all this stuff and i

2110
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:05,360
found another structure on the side of

2111
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:08,320
this cave which i've got pictures of and

2112
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,440
i'm not i don't know if that was a

2113
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:11,520
bigfoot structure or not but it just uh

2114
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:13,199
it was odd

2115
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,600
um the places you know what the place is

2116
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:17,360
cool it's i'll tell you what it would be

2117
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,360
a lot harder to sneak into blind frog

2118
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,360
than it would be to sneak into

2119
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,440
skinwalker and we'll talk about that

2120
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:25,199
later on in this in this conversation

2121
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:27,440
but you're not gonna sneak into blind

2122
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,280
frog but if you can if you can get an

2123
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:31,120
invite there and camp there it's a

2124
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:32,960
thrill because you you just feel the

2125
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,679
energy i mean the view the you're like

2126
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:37,440
in your own little dimension your own

2127
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:39,520
world your own you can create your own

2128
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:41,280
reality it just it just seemed it was

2129
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,560
just a lot of fun and raw was the

2130
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,560
perfect guy to be there with because uh

2131
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,320
we neither one of us were afraid we were

2132
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,080
just open to whatever was gonna happen

2133
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:50,639
okay before i run out of time here rob

2134
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:54,080
what uh you said nothing the skies were

2135
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:56,320
empty the first night did you guys see

2136
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:14,870
thank you let me know before

2137
01:27:19,430 --> 01:27:16,950
so so the second night

2138
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:19,440
and the third night we we captured

2139
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:22,239
objects traversing the sky

2140
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,199
and also for cross-referencing when you

2141
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,520
see those objects if it's blinking and

2142
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:29,920
it's usually hours if it's not blinking

2143
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,320
it's to be questioned if a satellite

2144
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,400
comes in because i spoke to astronomers

2145
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:36,159
and professionals how do you view that

2146
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:38,719
satellites fade in they linear and they

2147
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,159
fade out what i filmed was lit as bright

2148
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:44,560
as day no fading in no fading out

2149
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,830
probably out of orbit super fast and you

2150
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,760
can use a satellite tracking app and

2151
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:55,840
just to make sure you can use several

2152
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:57,760
satellite tracking apps and it said

2153
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,040
clear sky nothing is in the sky why am i

2154
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:03,440
feeling something as bright as a

2155
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,880
football stadium going across the sky

2156
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,880
and some of it even made maneuvers where

2157
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:10,880
you know satellites do not have

2158
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,320
batteries for floodlights they don't

2159
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:16,239
yeah they have little cells for little

2160
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:17,600
adjustments but they don't have that

2161
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,040
kind of power that you would see the

2162
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:21,520
light from earth in the sky so when you

2163
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:22,880
see something as

2164
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:24,159
lit as a

2165
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:27,440
firecracker well i believe it's not ours

2166
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:29,679
and eric did you see the same thing

2167
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:30,960
you know

2168
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,199
yeah yeah i mean uh

2169
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,199
jimmy if you you know you and i together

2170
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:37,120
we've talked about this before i mean

2171
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,400
you know when you're when you see

2172
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,800
something that's that that you know is

2173
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:42,239
not a satellite or a plane or a

2174
01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:44,560
helicopter and you've seen it multiple

2175
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,719
times and then you see it again you just

2176
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:48,159
know right away that you're seeing

2177
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:50,560
something uh completely unusual this is

2178
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,880
this is not man-made and that was the

2179
01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:54,480
that was the feeling that i got with

2180
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:55,920
what we were seeing but what was

2181
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,280
interesting is there was a lady named

2182
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,280
annie who came in from uh from the

2183
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:01,040
draper utah area who i've interviewed

2184
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:02,960
before uh who's an e.t experiencer and

2185
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,440
her friend who's also an et expenser

2186
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:07,920
they came out there with us that second

2187
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:09,679
night and i don't know that it was

2188
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:11,520
because they were there

2189
01:29:17,189 --> 01:29:14,320
but they had a lot of et energy and she

2190
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:17,199
has 2010 vision and she was spotting

2191
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:19,120
these things in the sky looking up into

2192
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:20,080
the sky

2193
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:22,000
uh all over the place and i'm just

2194
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,239
looking through my uh my my zoom lens

2195
01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:26,000
i'm only able to see a portion of the

2196
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,800
sky you know scanning but she would say

2197
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,239
okay there's another one right there and

2198
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,920
then we would flip over and there it was

2199
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:33,679
and we'd follow and track that and you

2200
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:35,440
know you get two of them coming side by

2201
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:36,880
side and then another one coming from

2202
01:29:41,030 --> 01:29:38,960
another angle and they cross each other

2203
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:41,040
and and it's like okay this is this is

2204
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,480
legit here this is this is not

2205
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:44,159
satellites this is this is something

2206
01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:45,920
something supernatural is happening here

2207
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:48,960
so that was my take incredible raw um i

2208
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:50,880
want to say to everybody out there this

2209
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:53,440
is my raw pendant that i wear during the

2210
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:54,239
day

2211
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,960
i'm all uh jacked up on coffee i'm

2212
01:30:03,270 --> 01:29:59,760
working i've you know my adrenaline and

2213
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:03,280
this is this is how i calm down i just

2214
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,960
rob this thing is amazing and you can go

2215
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:08,800
to well thank you that you're feeling it

2216
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:11,840
yeah yeah absolutely and uh

2217
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:13,520
ra's website

2218
01:30:18,270 --> 01:30:14,880
raw

2219
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:18,280
hyphen key dot com the links are at

2220
01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:20,159
jimmychurchradio.com click and go visit

2221
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,159
his website he's got a lot of uh other

2222
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:24,639
information over there too as well

2223
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:27,040
ra you are the very best thank you so

2224
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:29,679
much my friend and uh got to get you

2225
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:30,960
i've got to get you back on the show

2226
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:33,199
where we can just sit and talk for a

2227
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:43,030
rock hold on hold on you can also bring

2228
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:44,320
up

2229
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:45,600
there

2230
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:47,840
eric eric

2231
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:49,360
what happened there yeah thank you so

2232
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:51,760
much eric there is no time out when

2233
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:54,320
there is a commercial break coming up

2234
01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:56,159
and which we're going to do that now rob

2235
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:58,000
behave and be well my friend thank you

2236
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:00,000
so much

2237
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:03,679
thank you arcturus raw and his website

2238
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:05,760
is right there jimmychurchradio.com

2239
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:07,840
i got to take a break more with eric

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01:31:14,210 --> 01:31:09,600
awakening man when we come back stay

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01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:38,629
you are listening to fate to black with

2288
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:45,910
hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

2289
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:48,880
jimmy church this is revolution the

2290
01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:51,679
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2291
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2292
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2293
01:34:41,109 --> 01:34:39,270
welcome back fade to black i am your

2294
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:41,119
host jimmy church tonight awakening man

2295
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:42,880
i want to thank ra

2296
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:46,000
for coming in raw strong

2297
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:49,440
raw is strong nobody mentioned

2298
01:34:54,709 --> 01:34:51,440
i got my hair cut

2299
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:54,719
i cut off like a foot of hair and nobody

2300
01:35:01,350 --> 01:34:58,159
said a thing i am just upset about that

2301
01:35:04,390 --> 01:35:01,360
i did it for you i did it for you i want

2302
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:04,400
to be fashion forward and conscious

2303
01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:08,080
about my hairstyle and and and i spent

2304
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:09,920
so much time

2305
01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:10,800
with

2306
01:35:16,629 --> 01:35:14,800
man this is

2307
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:16,639
this is you know this is for the video

2308
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:18,480
feed i just want to make sure that that

2309
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:21,119
that that i look my best for the fader

2310
01:35:26,709 --> 01:35:23,040
knots she's like oh you're going to look

2311
01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:26,719
great i mean hours it took

2312
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:30,560
nobody said a thing i am just upset

2313
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:33,280
upset which spice girl can still get

2314
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:34,560
petrol

2315
01:35:38,229 --> 01:35:36,560
jerry can

2316
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:38,239
that's good

2317
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,520
my hair

2318
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:43,920
totally upset eric i get you saw how

2319
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:45,440
long my hair was

2320
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:47,760
right and and i go you look like a

2321
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,480
hippie yeah man i cut off a foot

2322
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,199
a foot you know look how short it is and

2323
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,440
it you know and

2324
01:36:01,830 --> 01:35:56,960
nobody said a thing

2325
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:01,840
amazing

2326
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:04,239
and uh this pendant oh i'm just gonna

2327
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:05,199
say this

2328
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:06,639
uh

2329
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:08,880
it's one of those things and he he

2330
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:11,520
describes the science and what is inside

2331
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:13,040
of this and how it's designed and

2332
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:13,920
everything

2333
01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:17,119
right over my head but um

2334
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,239
it it calms you down it's like immediate

2335
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:21,760
and uh so

2336
01:36:25,109 --> 01:36:23,280
when i'm when i'm getting when i'm

2337
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:25,119
getting those jitters

2338
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:27,199
i put that pendant on it's it's amazing

2339
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:28,560
i'll wear it during the day if i wore

2340
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,239
that at night i'd never wake up

2341
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,560
i'd sleep all day

2342
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:37,199
oh man okay so

2343
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:39,199
uh you and ra

2344
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:41,199
uh and sarah

2345
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:45,119
uh you guys part ways right um he heads

2346
01:36:50,229 --> 01:36:47,440
back to uh with with sarah back to

2347
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:52,550
she yeah actually she left first and

2348
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:55,840
then uh i think raw kind of not an hour

2349
01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:58,159
two or three later left but

2350
01:37:06,709 --> 01:36:59,840
the same day

2351
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:06,719
other thing so there is a a paranormal

2352
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:09,840
conference that is going on in vernal

2353
01:37:12,149 --> 01:37:10,880
and

2354
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:12,159
um

2355
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:13,600
and the

2356
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:16,719
the skinwalker guys are there uh i

2357
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:19,199
i'm not gonna discuss the conference

2358
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:22,080
unless you want to but it's not my point

2359
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:23,440
but

2360
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:24,560
you

2361
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:25,440
uh

2362
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:26,560
head out

2363
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:29,119
to skinwalker to go to the gates right

2364
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:31,199
did you camp there too as well did you

2365
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:33,360
stay all night

2366
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:35,360
yeah we did and before we moved into

2367
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:37,119
that i just want to briefly mention that

2368
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:39,119
uh so that we use the night vision

2369
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:41,440
wednesday thursday friday the conference

2370
01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:43,520
was ended saturday

2371
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:46,080
uh and now just so you know the after

2372
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,080
friday night that was the last time the

2373
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,320
night vision ever came out of that box

2374
01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:52,239
at from this point forward it was all

2375
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:54,239
bigfoot okay

2376
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:55,199
so

2377
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:57,119
you guys and one more thing is that

2378
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,840
there was a there was a light splashing

2379
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,280
and you remember when we were in the

2380
01:38:04,870 --> 01:38:03,440
mcleod out there three or four years ago

2381
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:04,880
out there near shasta during that one

2382
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,560
conference and we were seeing those

2383
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,400
things power up and kind of flash in the

2384
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,480
sky well that's exactly what was

2385
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:12,159
happening out there in vernal above the

2386
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:13,760
brian frog ranch

2387
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,360
and uh you know i've already told the

2388
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:17,440
story but those many listening haven't

2389
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:19,600
heard it but these things were flashing

2390
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:20,800
but they weren't going off they would

2391
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:23,040
just brighten up really bright and then

2392
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,800
they would power back down to like a

2393
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:26,239
normal bright

2394
01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,119
and uh so yeah so that i mean i i had my

2395
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,920
bill at that point and now i was like

2396
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:33,600
okay i want to say that so i was at the

2397
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:35,199
conference i met this guy named brad

2398
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,400
we're going to talk about this because

2399
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:38,400
this guy is a key a key figure in this

2400
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:39,520
whole thing

2401
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,080
and uh so saturday we're there and in in

2402
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:44,960
stroll's george knapp and uh

2403
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:47,840
and uh i forget how

2404
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:49,679
how it came about where i i talked to

2405
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:52,639
him briefly and he and uh he was talking

2406
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,239
to somebody about the triangle he

2407
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:56,080
mentioned that yeah somebody here just

2408
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,159
filmed a triangle a few days ago and i

2409
01:39:01,109 --> 01:39:00,000
said yeah that was me he goes i want to

2410
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:01,119
talk to you

2411
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:03,760
and anyway uh so in the meantime there's

2412
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,000
this guy named brad who's a local lived

2413
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,480
there for 58 years in vernal he's been

2414
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:10,320
experiencing the bigfoot since he's four

2415
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,600
years old

2416
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,679
he was outside by his truck having a

2417
01:39:17,350 --> 01:39:15,119
cigarette in the parking lot i was

2418
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:17,360
walking out to my van to get some food

2419
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:19,760
or whatever it was i was doing and uh

2420
01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:21,280
and he's standing out there and i just

2421
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:23,679
thought this my intuition is if i see

2422
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,679
somebody to look interesting i've been

2423
01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:27,360
observing this guy at the conference for

2424
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:28,880
a few days he's not really talking to

2425
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:30,800
anybody but he's paying attention yeah i

2426
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:32,639
was curious what this guy's story was so

2427
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,960
i asked him i said so so what's going on

2428
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,239
what do you think about all this and

2429
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:38,320
then so we went right into this bigfoot

2430
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:41,199
conversation at that point and so we're

2431
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:43,440
chatting and then uh he i guess we hit

2432
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,000
it off pretty quickly he goes into his

2433
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,480
truck pulls out this uh photo album that

2434
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:50,639
was like the size of about four inches

2435
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,440
thick

2436
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:52,960
and he starts flipping through it and

2437
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,639
showing me these pictures of of the

2438
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:56,639
bigfoot structures and all these bigfoot

2439
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:58,480
things and so on and so forth and he's

2440
01:40:01,750 --> 01:40:00,080
telling me this story and i'm like my

2441
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,760
mouth is like hanging on the ground i'm

2442
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,600
like oh my god i said can i take

2443
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:05,520
pictures of these you know can i have a

2444
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,360
copy can i show my friends so no one's

2445
01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:09,040
going to believe me please he's like

2446
01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:11,600
yeah yeah go ahead and then so long

2447
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:13,600
story short so he says i said where

2448
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:15,679
where are these things he goes right up

2449
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,360
here right up at the ashley forest it's

2450
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,440
about a half an hour from here i go is

2451
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:21,520
there any chance i can get you to drive

2452
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:23,440
us up there we'll follow you and myself

2453
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:25,840
and raw and my friend jeff and there's

2454
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,760
two other guys that were kind of uh into

2455
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,199
this whole bigfoot thing that were kind

2456
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:31,360
of hanging around us at the same time so

2457
01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:33,679
five of us on it was uh

2458
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:35,679
was it saturday i think it was saturday

2459
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:37,360
or sunday i can't remember it was i

2460
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,560
think it was

2461
01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:40,239
okay okay

2462
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:41,119
okay

2463
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,679
go ahead to the point so so we all we

2464
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:45,520
all get uh we all follow this guy we

2465
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:47,360
meet at this place this location we all

2466
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,480
follow this guy

2467
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:50,159
uh you know up this road i forget what

2468
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:51,440
road it was but we're driving up this

2469
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,600
road we get up to the ashley forest

2470
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:55,920
uh we you know we just truck it in there

2471
01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:57,520
and i'm looking i'm thinking man this is

2472
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:59,119
kind of trippy this is this is a cool

2473
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,199
forest it's beautiful but these are like

2474
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:03,520
birch trees or they're not that thick

2475
01:41:07,270 --> 01:41:05,360
it's not like the redwoods or these

2476
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:07,280
massive pine trees that are 120 feet

2477
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,679
tall that i saw in montana these are not

2478
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:11,760
this is a thick forest but not a huge

2479
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:14,400
tall forest so i'm trying to visualize

2480
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,239
how could the bigfoot be here and not be

2481
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:18,639
seen and so on and so forth so i was a

2482
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,199
little skeptical driving in but i was

2483
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,440
gonna have an open mind so we get out of

2484
01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:25,440
it we get out of the vehicles we pull

2485
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:27,920
over and this guy says okay follow me so

2486
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:29,520
we start following this guy into the

2487
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:31,920
forest and i'm recording the whole thing

2488
01:41:36,790 --> 01:41:33,840
and uh he takes us to these tree

2489
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,800
structures now these tree structures

2490
01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:38,719
on a scale from one to ten they were

2491
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:40,719
tens i mean they were amazing tree

2492
01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,360
structures they were you've got uh trees

2493
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:45,760
like they're woven together

2494
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:48,480
pinned up in the tree you got one tree

2495
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:50,400
pushed into the ground another tree bent

2496
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:52,159
over another tree bent over the top of

2497
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,920
that and then another tree woven in

2498
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:55,679
through that one you know and it's like

2499
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:58,719
there's just no way that this was done

2500
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:01,440
by some just restless uh you know

2501
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:03,199
forest guys i mean this this is not

2502
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:04,719
something campers do they don't make

2503
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,239
these tree structures

2504
01:42:09,910 --> 01:42:08,000
uh so as we're as we're walking through

2505
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,920
the this literally happened in the first

2506
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:11,760
five minutes we were there we're walking

2507
01:42:16,149 --> 01:42:13,520
through the forest uh we're all kind of

2508
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:16,159
together but but separated by maybe 20

2509
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,280
yards

2510
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,280
anyway all of a sudden and raw's next to

2511
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:21,600
me and this guy jeff that was with us

2512
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:23,199
they're right in the same vicinity i'm

2513
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:25,280
in and then all of a sudden

2514
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,560
uh i hear this

2515
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:30,880
and it was clear i could i was recording

2516
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:32,480
i'm thinking god i just pray that the

2517
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:34,400
microphone picked that up i go did you

2518
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,960
guys hear that ross says yes i heard it

2519
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:38,880
jeff heard it we all heard it

2520
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:41,440
uh fortunately i did i was able to get

2521
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:44,080
it recorded uh if you can't hear it real

2522
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:46,400
well but you can hear it on the

2523
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:49,280
recording um so we're walking around and

2524
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,719
we're just finding all these tree

2525
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:52,480
structures i mean there's literally we

2526
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:54,159
must have run into at least

2527
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:55,920
seven or eight different tree structures

2528
01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:57,440
in this forest in the hour that we're

2529
01:43:01,430 --> 01:42:59,360
just kind of and at one point we're in

2530
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,440
there and me and this guy jeff were kind

2531
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,360
of kind of went out on our own little

2532
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:05,520
area and we stopped and i'm going well

2533
01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:07,040
where where are we parked how do we even

2534
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:08,400
get out here i said i could see how

2535
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,560
somebody can get lost in here because uh

2536
01:43:13,350 --> 01:43:12,159
i didn't even really know where we were

2537
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:13,360
i was getting a little nervous so i

2538
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:14,560
started yelling out hey where are you

2539
01:43:19,669 --> 01:43:17,280
guys at and we're over here and so we

2540
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,679
start walking and raw had just kind of

2541
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:21,440
he kind of gotten tired i guess so he

2542
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:24,000
went back to his truck and he was taking

2543
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:25,760
a nap in the back of his truck so we

2544
01:43:30,310 --> 01:43:28,480
walk up and and we see him back there

2545
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:30,320
and i i go right you you're all right he

2546
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:31,840
goes yeah i just got got a little tired

2547
01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:33,440
just want to take a little rest

2548
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:35,360
and he goes he goes wait wait you hear

2549
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:38,639
what i recorded and so so raw apparently

2550
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,800
was hearing the same kind of sounds that

2551
01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:43,360
that i recorded but even better higher

2552
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:47,679
quality sounds that were longer like

2553
01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:50,239
kind of a growly roughly it was a weird

2554
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:52,800
sound but it was

2555
01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:55,679
look here's what's weird jimmy

2556
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:58,320
the sound sounded as if it was pretty

2557
01:44:05,109 --> 01:43:59,679
close

2558
01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:05,119
we should have seen it whatever it was i

2559
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,199
should have been able to scan the area

2560
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,040
and look and see what it was that was

2561
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,119
making this sound but we couldn't see

2562
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:13,040
anything wow and so the same thing

2563
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:14,639
happened to raw when he was when he

2564
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,560
recorded these sounds

2565
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:18,639
he said he was looking around

2566
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,719
and he thought that this thing had to be

2567
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:22,320
pretty close but he couldn't see it so

2568
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:24,639
this what kicked into my head is

2569
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,719
i wonder if these things are either

2570
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,080
they're cloaking

2571
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:30,080
or they're in it or maybe the sound

2572
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,840
travel through another dimension i mean

2573
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:33,520
maybe they're in some other

2574
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,040
dimension and they're just they're

2575
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:37,119
projecting the sound into our dimension

2576
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:39,040
i don't know i'm speculating right now

2577
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,880
but i just it was weird it was just

2578
01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:42,400
really but

2579
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:44,560
it was evidence to me because i mean the

2580
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:46,400
this this was not a joke that was being

2581
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,800
played on us these sounds were real

2582
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,880
these tree structures were real

2583
01:44:54,550 --> 01:44:52,960
um so i was excited now i'm getting

2584
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,560
really excited about bigfoot now because

2585
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:56,719
now i know that okay here's a spot that

2586
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:59,040
i can go and i can camp at

2587
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:01,119
camp out at and potentially have another

2588
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:02,880
experience uh maybe more positive than

2589
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,639
the one i had in happy jack

2590
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:06,880
um so this so about an hour and a half

2591
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:09,280
went by right this guy says okay the

2592
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:11,840
party's over uh the bigfoot uh they

2593
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:13,440
thank you guys for coming out uh

2594
01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:15,040
whatever his little spiel was to us you

2595
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:16,320
know you guys uh

2596
01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:18,080
they're they're they're moving on now

2597
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,360
they got whatever they got other things

2598
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,360
to do in other words whatever we were

2599
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:23,520
experiencing it ended

2600
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,520
and so i said okay guys let's just hop

2601
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:27,040
in the vehicles follow me we're gonna

2602
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:28,400
drive deeper into the forest we're gonna

2603
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:30,239
take this forest service road we're just

2604
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:32,000
go i want to explore further i want to

2605
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:33,679
go deeper i want to see what else might

2606
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:34,960
be out there

2607
01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:36,719
see what other experiences we might have

2608
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,480
by ourselves without this other group of

2609
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:40,480
guys that was that were locals

2610
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:42,239
and so we're driving down this road for

2611
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:43,679
about 10 minutes

2612
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:44,880
and we're and i'm seeing these

2613
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,119
structures in the woods as we're driving

2614
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:49,040
along i'm thinking and i saw this one

2615
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:51,280
tree that looked about as easily as big

2616
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:52,960
around as my thigh that was about eight

2617
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:55,520
feet up that had just been snapped

2618
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,080
it was still hanging dangling but this

2619
01:46:03,189 --> 01:46:00,239
tree was snapped it wasn't cut down it

2620
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:03,199
wasn't it nothing fell on it so that

2621
01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:04,960
they call that a tree break and so i was

2622
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:06,560
pretty pumped okay this there might be

2623
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:09,440
some stuff out here so so i pulled over

2624
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:10,320
and

2625
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:12,639
i'm walking around the the perimeter of

2626
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,360
this area and then we came across this

2627
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:17,040
other tree structure

2628
01:46:20,470 --> 01:46:18,800
that was like a no doubt about it this

2629
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:20,480
was a no doubt about her i mean this

2630
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:22,639
thing these things these particular

2631
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:24,159
trees were thick

2632
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:26,239
they were they were they were they were

2633
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:28,239
uh they weren't in the ground they were

2634
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:30,000
just traversed left or right clicks

2635
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:32,320
parallel and then you had vertical going

2636
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:34,159
left vertical going right like an x

2637
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,679
structure and then you had these

2638
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,920
skinnier birch trees kind of woven

2639
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,360
between them

2640
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,280
i've got pictures of all this so so i

2641
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:43,199
believe that that what this guy was

2642
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:45,199
telling us this is a bigfoot area i

2643
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:46,880
believe that i think i saw enough

2644
01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:48,000
evidence

2645
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,560
uh to believe that and then uh oh one

2646
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:52,239
more thing i forgot to mention is that

2647
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:54,880
just before he left

2648
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:56,960
he told us his story and when he told me

2649
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:58,880
the story at first i thought okay this

2650
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,320
guy's trying to just hype this up a

2651
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,080
little bit i'm not so sure i buy this

2652
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:03,760
story but you know whatever maybe he's

2653
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:05,679
telling the truth i don't know but he

2654
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:07,600
said that there was a time a few years

2655
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,480
back

2656
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,639
uh he was at the bar or whatever and

2657
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:12,719
somebody had popped him in the nose and

2658
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:14,880
he was it broke his nose or whatever so

2659
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,119
he was he was injured

2660
01:47:21,430 --> 01:47:19,520
and for whatever reason he just he told

2661
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:21,440
us that he decided to drive up to this

2662
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:22,560
area

2663
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,239
and he says that he

2664
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:26,639
he has habituation he

2665
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:28,800
he co-mingles with these bigfoot he's

2666
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:30,400
there's four of them that he knows up

2667
01:47:35,910 --> 01:47:32,000
there and he says that he's seen as many

2668
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,920
as 15 or 20 in one camping trip and this

2669
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:37,679
particular time where his nose is all

2670
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:39,360
smashed up or whatever he went up there

2671
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,320
he claims that the female sasquatch that

2672
01:47:47,350 --> 01:47:44,320
he co-mingles with

2673
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:47,360
came out in her physical form

2674
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:01,350
eric when you say he's co-mingling with

2675
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:04,159
the female bigfoot

2676
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:06,400
what are you saying

2677
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:13,189
he communicates with him he sees them he

2678
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,639
these things are appearing in their

2679
01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:16,560
physical form it's not like he's having

2680
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:18,480
some sort of thought interaction

2681
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:21,119
with some invisible force he's saying

2682
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:23,440
that he actually sees these things they

2683
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,159
show themselves to him i have a friend

2684
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:27,920
uh that's listening to the show right

2685
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:29,199
now lisa

2686
01:48:33,990 --> 01:48:31,119
and says and she just said that she's

2687
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:34,000
getting inspired to write a romance

2688
01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:36,639
novel while listening to the show so i

2689
01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:37,920
thought that i thought that we could

2690
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,400
just take this to the next level and uh

2691
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:42,480
okay so let's take that part out

2692
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:44,840
um uh

2693
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:48,000
skinwalker so yeah

2694
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:52,080
okay so you guys uh go out to you guys

2695
01:48:56,870 --> 01:48:54,400
don't go to skinwalker

2696
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:56,880
you guys go to the entrance to

2697
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:59,360
skinwalker and camp right is that what

2698
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,360
happened no we don't go to the entrance

2699
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:03,199
what we this guy jeff who lives in

2700
01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:05,119
draper friend of mine who's also a

2701
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,080
researcher uh he knows a guy that owns a

2702
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,320
property adjacent to the skinwalker

2703
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:12,719
ranch now when you get on this property

2704
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,400
you're kind of elevated you can actually

2705
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:16,480
see down onto the skinwalker ranch you

2706
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,320
can see there their buildings you can

2707
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:20,159
see where their tower is right you can

2708
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:22,800
even see the uh the the entrance okay uh

2709
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:24,560
so i would say this was probably about a

2710
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:26,480
half a mile away from from high site we

2711
01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:28,080
can all see all this with the binoculars

2712
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,599
with the clear eyes with the night

2713
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:31,360
vision and you can see it all okay so

2714
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,280
you camp out there above skin walker

2715
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,440
right okay um

2716
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,920
what happened

2717
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,480
uh well nothing really to brag about i

2718
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,000
could tell you i i mean we saw a few

2719
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:46,400
lights that were strange i i'm not gonna

2720
01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:48,000
hang my hat on it and say that these

2721
01:49:52,629 --> 01:49:50,159
were nothing as impressive as the lights

2722
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:52,639
we saw at the invernal uh during the

2723
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,639
first night and also at the blind frog

2724
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:56,159
um but you know there was some strange

2725
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:57,360
things

2726
01:50:02,070 --> 01:49:59,520
but they were probably explainable

2727
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:02,080
possibly nothing so odd that it was like

2728
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:04,400
a no doubt about it kind of deal um but

2729
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:07,599
what was interesting to me is that uh

2730
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:09,840
this was on the back side of where

2731
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:12,400
skinwalker is i don't even know that i i

2732
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:14,080
couldn't find that road if you told me

2733
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:15,679
let's go let's go there eric i don't

2734
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:17,199
know that we can get in my vehicle and i

2735
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:18,880
could find that road because we went

2736
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:20,159
through all these

2737
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,520
turns to get out there but what i'm

2738
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:23,040
trying to say is that

2739
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:25,360
um it wouldn't

2740
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,760
i'm just going to say it i i i did

2741
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:29,280
technically sneak onto the to the

2742
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:31,199
skinwalker ranch oh there's a there's a

2743
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:33,440
okay yeah all right all right there's a

2744
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,960
fence there there's there's a barbed

2745
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:37,119
wire fence there that goes all the way

2746
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:39,119
around the perimeter it goes down into

2747
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:40,639
this little goalie where there's a

2748
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:41,840
little creek

2749
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,599
and i wasn't the first one that thought

2750
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,960
to do this by the way because there's

2751
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,119
the the wire was bent and all pushed

2752
01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:49,440
down so all i had to do was duck down

2753
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,599
and climb underneath the wire and so i

2754
01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:53,440
walked onto the skinwalker ranch a

2755
01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:55,520
little ways but for me to get to the

2756
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:57,360
area where all the action was happening

2757
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:59,520
i would have had to walk probably two

2758
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,119
football fields and i wasn't going to do

2759
01:51:05,589 --> 01:51:03,840
that i didn't want to take that chance

2760
01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:05,599
but i could have

2761
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,599
i don't know what i would i didn't want

2762
01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:09,040
to get in trouble because because the

2763
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,960
guy that was letting us uh hang out on

2764
01:51:14,950 --> 01:51:13,040
his property he was cool to let us do

2765
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:14,960
that so i wasn't going to push it but i

2766
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:17,199
was tempted

2767
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:18,960
i'm accepted

2768
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:21,920
so the the guy the team from sky uh

2769
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:25,199
skywalker skinwalker was at the

2770
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:26,800
conference

2771
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,520
did they reveal anything did was there

2772
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:31,760
any breaking news coming out of

2773
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:34,159
skinwalker

2774
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:37,040
i got to tell you uh i like the show

2775
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,800
i think the guys that are in the show

2776
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:40,719
are very intelligent people very

2777
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:43,840
educated people uh it's that's the kind

2778
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,360
of show it is but when you listen to

2779
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:47,520
them all get on a panel and talk about

2780
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:49,280
it um

2781
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,880
it just feels like the information is

2782
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:52,320
being controlled that's how it felt to

2783
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:54,880
me it's like maybe i i'm gonna say this

2784
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:57,040
i i think these guys know things i think

2785
01:52:00,790 --> 01:51:59,199
they've seen things but i also know

2786
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,800
because of their maybe their scientific

2787
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:02,719
mindset that because they can't explain

2788
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:04,960
it they won't even talk about it they

2789
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,960
won't even introduce possibilities or

2790
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,800
hypotheticals they would they would all

2791
01:52:12,629 --> 01:52:10,880
they avoid that conversation they'll

2792
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:12,639
tell you what they see with their

2793
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:15,040
machine with their devices tell them but

2794
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,480
they're not going to go into the woo

2795
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,320
they just will not go into the woo and

2796
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:20,320
that's fine but i think a lot of the

2797
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,599
people that were there at the conference

2798
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,840
that were listening to them talk were

2799
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:25,440
kind of hoping for some woo but they

2800
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:26,560
didn't get it

2801
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:30,080
um and and was it because there was no

2802
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:31,760
woo to discuss

2803
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:34,320
you were there right you're you're

2804
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:37,199
you're over skin walker there there was

2805
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:38,960
woo there might be woo i'm going to say

2806
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,320
this there probably is woo on the

2807
01:52:43,669 --> 01:52:42,400
skinwalker ranch a matter of fact i'm

2808
01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:43,679
pretty sure there is because i've talked

2809
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:45,360
to people that have seen the woo

2810
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:47,040
but it's one of those deals where i

2811
01:52:50,950 --> 01:52:48,480
think i'd have to be there for at least

2812
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,960
three or four days or maybe get lucky

2813
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:52,880
um two days but what i'm trying to say

2814
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:54,880
is that that's the kind of place where

2815
01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:56,080
you need to be there and you need to

2816
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:57,760
really scope it out you need to you need

2817
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,960
to have the night vision you need to

2818
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,400
have the binoculars you need to be

2819
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:02,480
willing to do a little hiking around

2820
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:04,159
and and maybe you'll see something maybe

2821
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:05,599
you won't i think

2822
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:07,599
i don't know why uh if we got lucky at

2823
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:09,280
the blind frog or

2824
01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:12,080
or the blind frog is more of a hot spot

2825
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,520
but um

2826
01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:15,599
if i had if i had to pick one place to

2827
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:17,199
go it would be without question the

2828
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,960
blind frog was way more

2829
01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:20,719
exciting we're not supposed to say that

2830
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,480
i'm not really i wouldn't you know they

2831
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:24,080
don't like the blind frog people don't

2832
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:26,159
want us bragging about blind frog they

2833
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:27,760
don't want us comparing blind frog to

2834
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:29,840
skinwalker they're very humble people

2835
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:32,159
dwayne's a great guy very humble guy

2836
01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:33,679
they've got tours if you want to see the

2837
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,199
blind frog you can go up there they've

2838
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:37,679
got an actual business there now

2839
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,840
they interviewed raw and i for about 35

2840
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,119
minutes and they're running the video

2841
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:43,360
there and anyway uh you can get in a bus

2842
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,800
and you can drive out there and they'll

2843
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:46,320
they'll give you the tour

2844
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:53,189
now that okay put it this way i've seen

2845
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:54,400
nothing really jumped off at the

2846
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:56,239
skinwalker for me to get excited about

2847
01:54:01,589 --> 01:53:58,960
okay fair enough fair enough so uh roz

2848
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:01,599
not with us i didn't want to uh bring

2849
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:03,840
this up on the show with him

2850
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:06,560
i wanted more of an eyewitness account

2851
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:09,440
of what happened um there was a little

2852
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:13,280
dust up between raw and the skinwalker

2853
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:19,510
i didn't know there was a dust up but uh

2854
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:21,119
okay here's here's what could have

2855
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:23,360
happened i had to sign this uh

2856
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:24,880
non-disclosure kind of agreement

2857
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,520
whatever it is this this you know if it

2858
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:29,119
basically protects the owners of the

2859
01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:32,880
property no i'm talking about not that

2860
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:35,679
the q a oh no no i remember now okay yes

2861
01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,719
yes

2862
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:38,639
so during the conference at the

2863
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:40,480
phenomicon in the vernal which by the

2864
01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:42,320
way it's a it was for the first year

2865
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:43,920
that was like the best first year

2866
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,760
conference you could ever imagine i mean

2867
01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:47,280
300 people were there was pretty

2868
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,199
impressive if people can get out there

2869
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:51,440
next year i recommend it okay okay let's

2870
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:54,400
get to the event what happened okay so

2871
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:56,480
raw so all the panels up there and then

2872
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,239
they open it up to the audience to ask

2873
01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:00,719
questions um i think i was out in the

2874
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:02,560
hallway when this happened but raw stood

2875
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:04,960
up and he was having a car he was asking

2876
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:07,840
questions or posing possibilities to the

2877
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:08,800
panel

2878
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,199
uh that were what i call

2879
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,440
kind of more of a woo kind of thing and

2880
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:15,040
they just weren't willing to go there

2881
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,800
and they just kind of just

2882
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:18,000
they just kind of i don't know if they

2883
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:19,840
blew him off or if they didn't want to

2884
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:21,920
acknowledge his his uh

2885
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:24,480
his evaluation or his download or

2886
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:26,719
whatever it was that he was hit whatever

2887
01:55:30,709 --> 01:55:29,119
vibe he was getting from the whole thing

2888
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:30,719
uh they they don't look at they don't

2889
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:31,920
want to talk about that they don't want

2890
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:33,360
to look at that stuff they want to talk

2891
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:35,199
about science which is fine

2892
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:36,320
they're there

2893
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,080
and prove it with science and a lot of

2894
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,480
guys that are in the ufology or into

2895
01:55:46,149 --> 01:55:44,560
anything cryptid oriented that's what

2896
01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:46,159
they want if you don't have science if

2897
01:55:49,030 --> 01:55:47,440
you don't have proof they don't want to

2898
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:49,040
hear about it they're going to troll you

2899
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,639
you know that's not my personality i

2900
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,480
mean i like the scientist guy but i'm

2901
01:55:55,750 --> 01:55:53,840
going to go i'm going to try to find the

2902
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,760
woo okay i might not be able to write it

2903
01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:57,040
to you but i'm going to but i'm going to

2904
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:58,960
talk about it if i see it okay but what

2905
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:01,440
happened

2906
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:09,830
nothing i mean he just he just whatever

2907
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:11,440
he said i wish he could tell you because

2908
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,119
i don't remember i wasn't there in the

2909
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,360
room when he when he made his comments i

2910
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:17,040
was in the hallway talking to the

2911
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,119
bigfoot guy okay i don't really know

2912
01:56:23,030 --> 01:56:21,360
what was said i just know that that they

2913
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,040
weren't really uh they weren't really

2914
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,040
feeling the direction raw was trying to

2915
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:26,960
take the whole conversation

2916
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:29,280
were you were you there

2917
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:30,560
were you there when they flipped the

2918
01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:34,800
table over and started throwing chairs

2919
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:36,639
what i didn't hear that who told you

2920
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:37,840
that okay

2921
01:56:44,149 --> 01:56:42,800
i'm making stuff up okay all right

2922
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:44,159
turkey

2923
01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:46,320
man no though it was all professional it

2924
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,639
never got funky uh the whole thing was

2925
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,080
really clean uh

2926
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,000
uh you know jeff meldrum was there with

2927
01:56:55,910 --> 01:56:54,239
his bigfoot cast and i plopped 40 foot

2928
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:55,920
40 bucks down for one of these giant

2929
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:58,159
footprint casts that he had and

2930
01:57:01,910 --> 01:56:59,920
and uh tom dongo i got to thank tom

2931
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:01,920
dongo who actually if it wasn't for tom

2932
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:05,040
dango from sedona arizona uh he invited

2933
01:57:08,070 --> 01:57:06,639
me out there got me a free pass i don't

2934
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:08,080
think i would have gone because i was

2935
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:09,760
just too far to drive i thought i'm not

2936
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:11,440
driving all the way out there to some

2937
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:13,679
phenomicon conference i just initially

2938
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:15,199
it just wasn't anything i was interested

2939
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:17,119
in and then he said yeah get your free

2940
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:18,719
pass and then i started talking to raw

2941
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:20,080
about it and then and then the whole

2942
01:57:24,229 --> 01:57:22,320
blind frog ranch thing kind of filtered

2943
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:24,239
from when we were at the megacon uh you

2944
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:26,239
know ross spent like three days talking

2945
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:27,679
to dwayne there at the megacon became

2946
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:29,520
really good friends with them had he not

2947
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:30,960
done that we would have never been

2948
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:33,840
invited there uh everything that the you

2949
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:35,920
know the cars just felt perfectly right

2950
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:37,599
that's great that's great that's great

2951
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:38,960
that's great

2952
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:40,239
let me jump in

2953
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:41,199
all right

2954
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:42,159
you

2955
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:45,280
i thought that the bigfoot footprint

2956
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:47,920
cast was for me what do you mean you

2957
01:58:02,950 --> 01:58:00,629
you called me up and said do you want a

2958
01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:02,960
bigfoot cast i said yes

2959
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:05,119
and now you're saying that you're done

2960
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:06,400
okay i'll give it to you though i could

2961
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:07,840
get another one it's no big deal i'll

2962
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:10,080
get another one it's all good i'll give

2963
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:11,280
it to you man

2964
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:14,239
okay this is okay now this is only like

2965
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:16,000
the first three days of the adventure we

2966
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:18,080
got another 20 days left

2967
01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:19,760
um where did

2968
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:22,080
let's set this up for after the break uh

2969
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:23,679
um after

2970
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:27,280
utah where did you head next

2971
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:30,159
uh from vernal we i went drove to draper

2972
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:32,400
on the 40

2973
01:58:37,030 --> 01:58:35,199
and um this was when this was the

2974
01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:37,040
morning about 5 30 in the morning when

2975
01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:38,480
we got up after we'd stayed the night at

2976
01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:41,679
the skinwalker uh adjacent property

2977
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:44,159
we we raw wet that's when raw left to go

2978
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,639
home actually yeah sarah left uh the day

2979
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:48,960
before okay

2980
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:51,280
walker and then anyway where did you

2981
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:52,560
drive

2982
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:55,599
next on the journey uh we were big

2983
01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:57,280
now listen to me this is important

2984
01:59:00,229 --> 01:58:58,719
because we're driving

2985
01:59:01,669 --> 01:59:00,239
two hours through the mountain range

2986
01:59:03,910 --> 01:59:01,679
through the valley

2987
01:59:05,510 --> 01:59:03,920
and uh as i'm coming down this hill into

2988
01:59:07,270 --> 01:59:05,520
the valley into this little town i can't

2989
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:07,280
think of it but it's about 30 minutes

2990
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:08,560
from draper

2991
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:10,960
and i see this uh

2992
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:12,159
this uh

2993
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,920
what do they call those things hot air

2994
01:59:17,189 --> 01:59:15,280
balloons

2995
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:17,199
clears day right in front of me i mean

2996
01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:19,840
there must be some hot air balloon uh

2997
01:59:22,790 --> 01:59:21,119
you know thing going on there where

2998
01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:22,800
people you could pay money and go and

2999
01:59:26,550 --> 01:59:25,040
get in the hot air balloon i'm assuming

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01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:26,560
and i'm looking at this thing as i'm

3001
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:28,320
driving and i'm taking pictures of it

3002
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,400
because i think it's kind of cool

3003
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:32,159
and then all of a sudden

3004
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:34,159
uh thank god i had my camera in my hand

3005
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:37,119
this time i see this object coming from

3006
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,480
left to right

3007
01:59:41,189 --> 01:59:40,320
very quickly

3008
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:41,199
uh

3009
01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:43,679
right i could clearly see it go in front

3010
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:46,159
of it was behind the uh

3011
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:49,280
the hot air balloon it went beside it

3012
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:52,239
and right past it and i was able to take

3013
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:53,679
a picture of it

3014
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:55,520
and then right away i tried to switch it

3015
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:57,280
over to video because i wanted to record

3016
02:00:02,149 --> 01:59:59,599
it moving and it was gone

3017
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:02,159
but that was a in my opinion there was

3018
02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:04,159
no doubt that that was a real ufo

3019
02:00:08,790 --> 02:00:06,719
because that thing moved way too fast

3020
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:08,800
and it was just there what else could it

3021
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:10,560
have been i don't i don't know what it

3022
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:12,000
could possibly also have been it flew

3023
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,320
right by that that hot air balloon uh

3024
02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:16,080
that was cool seeing that was really

3025
02:00:19,910 --> 02:00:17,760
cool actually yeah

3026
02:00:21,669 --> 02:00:19,920
i saw the image of it it was a it was a

3027
02:00:24,390 --> 02:00:21,679
pretty good capture let's take our break

3028
02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:24,400
right here i guess tonight awakening man

3029
02:00:29,189 --> 02:00:26,239
i want to thank rob for coming in

3030
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earlier absolutely incredible this is

3031
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their ufo bigfoot road trip i'll be

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right back stay with us

3033
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it is fade to black

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you want to know a secret

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i love police i really love ponies i'm

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serious

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i couldn't stay sane without ponies to

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brush

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why fade to black because you never got

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

3124
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:21,750
[Music]

3125
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:23,270
all right welcome back fade to black

3126
02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:27,440
tonight road trip week night number one

3127
02:05:32,069 --> 02:05:29,760
awakening man

3128
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:32,079
with raw rock cayman went

3129
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:33,679
roz amazing

3130
02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:34,960
and uh

3131
02:05:39,910 --> 02:05:37,599
now uh i don't you know i expected this

3132
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:39,920
with uh awakening man so we just spent

3133
02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:41,280
an hour and a half

3134
02:05:47,669 --> 02:05:43,840
uh discussing two nights on the road

3135
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:47,679
so uh we gotta squeeze in uh 18 days now

3136
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:51,760
eric in in a segment uh uh maybe two

3137
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,440
uh might have to keep you on um so

3138
02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:57,119
uh next dude if you don't have me on

3139
02:06:00,790 --> 02:05:58,480
overtime you're not getting the cast

3140
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:00,800
just so you know oh that's right you

3141
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:03,520
paid me to be on the show tonight uh

3142
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:06,480
people aren't supposed to know that

3143
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:08,320
everybody's wondering how

3144
02:06:11,750 --> 02:06:09,920
awakening man

3145
02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:11,760
people people in your in your in your

3146
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:13,440
youtube chat room think i'm on math or

3147
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:14,880
something they don't understand that i'm

3148
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:16,320
just trying to get all the information

3149
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:18,400
in as fast as possible okay

3150
02:06:21,430 --> 02:06:20,560
okay well see you're already wasting

3151
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:21,440
time

3152
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:22,800
let me

3153
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:25,840
run the show okay so

3154
02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:29,440
oh man okay so draper i did see that i

3155
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:31,360
did i did see the ufo photograph that's

3156
02:06:34,870 --> 02:06:32,560
great okay

3157
02:06:37,189 --> 02:06:34,880
um where did you head to next did you go

3158
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:37,199
to montana

3159
02:06:41,189 --> 02:06:39,599
uh so we stayed i stayed the draper was

3160
02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:41,199
the first chance

3161
02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:43,199
to just kind of chill for one day just

3162
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,119
to uh just okay

3163
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:47,440
did you go to montana yes and then it

3164
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:49,599
was time to it was time to go to montana

3165
02:06:53,030 --> 02:06:50,960
which uh

3166
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:53,040
which yeah you drove all the way through

3167
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:55,280
uh you know all the way up to uh was it

3168
02:06:59,910 --> 02:06:57,520
salt lake up to idaho through idaho

3169
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:59,920
falls all the way up to uh

3170
02:07:04,310 --> 02:07:01,920
montana where you went

3171
02:07:07,189 --> 02:07:04,320
okay so let's get to so you're in

3172
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:07,199
montana okay and this is to see duke

3173
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:08,960
sullivan

3174
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:11,520
correct and also uh this guy who you're

3175
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:12,719
going to want to have on the show one

3176
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,280
day who's my new fav who's my new hero

3177
02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:17,199
of a bigfoot researcher named william

3178
02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:18,320
lunsford

3179
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:21,040
uh this guy is phenomenal the texan man

3180
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:23,599
61 years old been researching bigfoot

3181
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:25,440
for 44 years

3182
02:07:29,669 --> 02:07:27,840
and uh as soon as i walk in okay so i

3183
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:29,679
get to duke's house i walk and he says

3184
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:31,920
hey eric walk in the door and then

3185
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:34,079
william lundsford's already there and

3186
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:35,840
and we'll say we say our hellos and

3187
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:38,320
whatnot and then we sit down and this

3188
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:40,400
guy william loves her he he he knew what

3189
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:42,239
i wanted to see and he didn't waste any

3190
02:07:46,950 --> 02:07:44,639
time he pulls out his phone and he

3191
02:07:48,870 --> 02:07:46,960
starts showing me pictures and as he's

3192
02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:48,880
showing me the pictures he's telling me

3193
02:07:53,510 --> 02:07:50,880
the story behind the pictures

3194
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:53,520
and uh he went on for two hours

3195
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:55,840
and i have to be honest sometimes the

3196
02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:58,079
information got overwhelming for me uh

3197
02:08:01,430 --> 02:08:00,000
for after about the first half hour of

3198
02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:01,440
seeing these pictures and having him

3199
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:03,119
tell me these stories

3200
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,440
i got i was just i actually got nervous

3201
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:07,119
it was like it was too much i was a

3202
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,079
little overwhelmed okay

3203
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,719
we'll save that for another show so what

3204
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:14,480
happened uh

3205
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:17,360
uh uh with duke what what happened first

3206
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:20,800
you guys how how how long were you

3207
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:23,199
so we all get in our vehicles duke duke

3208
02:08:27,270 --> 02:08:25,199
road with uh with william lunford he

3209
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:27,280
flew in from texas he got a got a rental

3210
02:08:31,510 --> 02:08:29,679
car and i drove in my van of course and

3211
02:08:34,069 --> 02:08:31,520
we we drove out it was about about an

3212
02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:34,079
hour and a half drive into the uh

3213
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:35,840
into the mountains out there duke told

3214
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:37,119
me the name of the mountains i can't

3215
02:08:40,069 --> 02:08:38,800
think of what it is right now but the

3216
02:08:41,589 --> 02:08:40,079
prairie i think it's the prairie

3217
02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:41,599
mountains or something like that it's

3218
02:08:46,310 --> 02:08:43,360
it's way up there about seven thousand

3219
02:08:47,669 --> 02:08:46,320
feet up in in the forest and uh it was

3220
02:08:49,030 --> 02:08:47,679
beautiful i mean the drive-in we're

3221
02:08:51,189 --> 02:08:49,040
going through these little funky towns

3222
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,199
so there's like 200 people and nothing

3223
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:52,800
but ranchers and you know so we get up

3224
02:08:56,390 --> 02:08:54,960
there and it's uh it's about four

3225
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:56,400
o'clock in the afternoon and so

3226
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:57,920
everybody's kind of setting up their

3227
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:00,159
their stuff you know all their tents and

3228
02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:02,639
everything like that and whatnot and uh

3229
02:09:07,270 --> 02:09:04,960
so when we get the campfire going

3230
02:09:08,950 --> 02:09:07,280
and then we start hearing uh some some

3231
02:09:10,069 --> 02:09:08,960
sounds

3232
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:10,079
and uh

3233
02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:12,400
sounds i'd heard these types of sounds

3234
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:14,320
before it's not the type of sound that i

3235
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:16,560
imagined i would hear what did you hear

3236
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:18,239
but were there what did it sound like go

3237
02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:20,320
ahead what did it sound like well it was

3238
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:22,159
it was it was like a cross between a

3239
02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:24,810
whistle and a howl it was like

3240
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:26,960
[Laughter]

3241
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:29,520
and at first i wasn't sure if it was the

3242
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:32,320
wind or the trees or if it was an owl i

3243
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:33,599
mean i'm thinking all these things in my

3244
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:34,880
head i don't know what the heck the

3245
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:36,880
sound is i've never heard it before and

3246
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:38,719
i said duke i mean are you hearing this

3247
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,480
sound he goes yeah i go do you know what

3248
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,000
that is he goes no i've never heard that

3249
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:44,000
sound before and none of these other

3250
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:45,440
guys there was five other guys there

3251
02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:46,960
that were bigfoot researchers that were

3252
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,239
there and none of them had heard this

3253
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:50,480
sound before so we're so i'm just in my

3254
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,079
mind i'm just kind of putting it on on

3255
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,520
the back burner thinking okay i don't

3256
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:54,800
know what this sound is but it's

3257
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:56,000
interesting

3258
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:56,960
um

3259
02:10:00,950 --> 02:09:59,280
so uh so we so that was it just a little

3260
02:10:01,910 --> 02:10:00,960
bit not not much just a little bit of a

3261
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:01,920
sound

3262
02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:03,840
uh so the next more so we sleep in you

3263
02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:05,440
know we're telling camp of the this is

3264
02:10:08,229 --> 02:10:06,800
what was probably the coolest part of

3265
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:08,239
the trip for me

3266
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,840
is uh these other guys that were there

3267
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,679
hadn't heard any of these stories that

3268
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:13,520
william was telling me at duke's house

3269
02:10:16,229 --> 02:10:15,040
north sea nor had they seen any of the

3270
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:16,239
pictures

3271
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:18,560
so we literally hung around the campfire

3272
02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:21,840
for for no exaggeration about six hours

3273
02:10:25,750 --> 02:10:23,840
and i got to listen to bigfoot stories

3274
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:25,760
from these guys for six hours it was the

3275
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:28,000
great and i was able to record some of

3276
02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:29,520
it uh i wish i could have recorded all

3277
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:30,960
of it but i didn't but these stories

3278
02:10:33,510 --> 02:10:32,239
were phenomenal if you ever get william

3279
02:10:35,990 --> 02:10:33,520
lundsford on your show i'm sure he'll

3280
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:36,000
tell you okay yeah let's not circle

3281
02:10:40,149 --> 02:10:38,320
eric it's bad radio

3282
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:40,159
to say that you listen to bigfoot

3283
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:43,679
stories for six hours let's get to the

3284
02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:45,280
excitement

3285
02:10:48,709 --> 02:10:47,119
what happened okay

3286
02:10:50,790 --> 02:10:48,719
so the next well so all right so the

3287
02:10:52,229 --> 02:10:50,800
next morning we wake up it's 5 30 in the

3288
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:52,239
morning you know we got we got the fire

3289
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:53,920
going because it's like 22 degrees

3290
02:10:56,390 --> 02:10:54,960
outside

3291
02:10:58,310 --> 02:10:56,400
and uh and then now we're hearing the

3292
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:58,320
sounds again but this time we're not

3293
02:11:01,510 --> 02:11:00,000
just hearing the sound in one area we're

3294
02:11:02,950 --> 02:11:01,520
hearing it in like two or three areas

3295
02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:02,960
kind of around the area where the

3296
02:11:07,750 --> 02:11:05,040
campsite was but you can't really tell

3297
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:07,760
how far away it is whether it's 50 yards

3298
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:09,840
away are you recording this hard to tell

3299
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:12,400
are you recording the sounds

3300
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,880
yes i did record the sound i've got two

3301
02:11:19,189 --> 02:11:17,119
recordings of these sounds okay cool and

3302
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:19,199
uh so then what happened and one one

3303
02:11:22,069 --> 02:11:20,560
footnote that i want to mention because

3304
02:11:24,069 --> 02:11:22,079
this is important

3305
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:24,079
uh there's a guy named uh rocky mountain

3306
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,760
sasquatch that's on you can find him on

3307
02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:27,599
youtube and on facebook and this guy

3308
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:29,679
does what i wish i could do which is he

3309
02:11:34,550 --> 02:11:32,159
goes he literally travels with his wife

3310
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:34,560
at the drop of a dime he's got sponsors

3311
02:11:39,990 --> 02:11:38,079
he literally does bigfoot research 24 7

3312
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:40,000
12 months out of the year did you meet

3313
02:11:44,790 --> 02:11:42,719
him was he there go ahead was he there

3314
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:44,800
with you he was not there but but this

3315
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:45,920
is important

3316
02:11:50,790 --> 02:11:47,920
in his video that he did three weeks ago

3317
02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:50,800
that i just watched yesterday

3318
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:52,639
he's in this uh he's up there in oregon

3319
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:54,159
doing some bigfoot research and the

3320
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:57,040
exact sounds that he was recording were

3321
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:58,880
the same exact sounds that we were

3322
02:12:03,109 --> 02:12:01,119
hearing in montana so to me that was

3323
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,119
kind of okay so it's not just here in

3324
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:05,119
montana there these sounds are happening

3325
02:12:09,669 --> 02:12:06,719
somewhere else with this other big okay

3326
02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:09,679
okay so then what happened okay so okay

3327
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:11,679
so now it's time to divide up the teams

3328
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,520
there's three there's six of us you know

3329
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:15,679
two guys go this way two guys go that

3330
02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:17,760
way two guys go this way you know duke

3331
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:20,239
says okay we all have each of us had a

3332
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:21,599
guide with us that had already been

3333
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:22,719
there before

3334
02:12:26,229 --> 02:12:24,000
so we're you know we're trudging through

3335
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:26,239
the forest you know this is like this is

3336
02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:27,840
not there's no path

3337
02:12:31,830 --> 02:12:29,679
there's no uh there's no trails we're

3338
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:31,840
literally you know climbing through you

3339
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:35,679
know tall grass dead dead dead trees

3340
02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:37,360
climbing up rocks i mean this is

3341
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:39,920
legitimate hiking and we're going to

3342
02:12:43,910 --> 02:12:41,760
these areas where duke has been before

3343
02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:43,920
where these massive tree structures

3344
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,840
these are not these little cool street

3345
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:47,599
structures that you saw pictures of on

3346
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:49,119
the uh on twitter here that i was

3347
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:51,360
posting from ashley these things are

3348
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:54,320
five six times the size uh with with

3349
02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:56,800
trees that logs much thicker and much

3350
02:13:01,510 --> 02:12:59,360
taller i mean these trees are 80 to 120

3351
02:13:02,790 --> 02:13:01,520
feet tall and they're all intertwined

3352
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:02,800
like a teepee

3353
02:13:06,069 --> 02:13:04,159
uh they're just

3354
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:06,079
crossed up and and then they're woven

3355
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:08,000
together and you got two of these uh

3356
02:13:12,069 --> 02:13:10,560
trees that are off the ground

3357
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:12,079
they didn't come out of the ground in

3358
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:13,520
that area because there's no roots

3359
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:15,280
anywhere there's no disturbance in the

3360
02:13:18,470 --> 02:13:17,040
ground these things were placed there

3361
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:18,480
that's the only way they could have got

3362
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:19,360
there

3363
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:21,040
but what was interesting is the whole

3364
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,480
time we're hiking around looking for

3365
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,480
tree structures there's also lots of

3366
02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:26,400
megalithic rock structures up there that

3367
02:13:29,830 --> 02:13:27,520
were really cool that we're taking

3368
02:13:32,470 --> 02:13:29,840
pictures of so my intuition was telling

3369
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:32,480
me that this area something was going on

3370
02:13:36,629 --> 02:13:34,560
here many many moons ago

3371
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:36,639
beyond humanity that we know now that

3372
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:38,480
this just felt like the vibe i got was

3373
02:13:42,790 --> 02:13:40,719
this was a hot spot no doubt about it

3374
02:13:45,589 --> 02:13:42,800
and um but we were not hearing any

3375
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:45,599
sounds as soon as we left the campsite

3376
02:13:48,950 --> 02:13:47,119
and walked into the woods and started

3377
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:48,960
hiking not one sound did we hear the

3378
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:51,280
whole entire time then after our little

3379
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:52,800
hike in the morning we come back to the

3380
02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:55,199
campsite at in the afternoon and the

3381
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:56,880
sounds start up again

3382
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,560
and but now it's not just one or two

3383
02:14:01,510 --> 02:14:00,079
you've got three of them you've got four

3384
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:01,520
of them you've got you've got sounds

3385
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:03,199
kind of like in a half moon shape all

3386
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,800
around us

3387
02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:07,199
uh it and it wasn't scary it wasn't

3388
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:09,520
intimidating it was just strange

3389
02:14:12,709 --> 02:14:11,280
um so we're sitting there and duke's

3390
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:12,719
sitting there next to me and the other

3391
02:14:16,550 --> 02:14:14,480
guys are we're all in kind of a circle

3392
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,560
around the campfire and all of a sudden

3393
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:18,880
i hear this loud crackle pop pop crackle

3394
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:21,520
and i'm looking over and i see this 80

3395
02:14:25,109 --> 02:14:23,199
to 100 foot uh

3396
02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:25,119
pine tree or whatever type of tree it

3397
02:14:29,510 --> 02:14:27,360
was it's coming down

3398
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:29,520
uh it's not coming down on the campsite

3399
02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:31,199
but it's coming down near the road where

3400
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:33,840
we where we drove in and it just crashes

3401
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:36,560
into the ground uh so so right away i

3402
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,199
hop up and duke hops up and i said let's

3403
02:14:42,790 --> 02:14:40,880
go see what's going on you know i i

3404
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:42,800
didn't even think about you know if

3405
02:14:46,229 --> 02:14:44,480
bigfoot pushed that tree over i didn't

3406
02:14:48,069 --> 02:14:46,239
really care i just wanted to go see what

3407
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:48,079
had happened so what happened we walked

3408
02:14:51,669 --> 02:14:49,920
up there that's a pretty big tree it

3409
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:51,679
must have been loud was laying on the

3410
02:14:55,430 --> 02:14:53,520
ground go ahead i'm sorry what i said it

3411
02:14:57,669 --> 02:14:55,440
must have been loud

3412
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:57,679
it was really loud i mean it was it was

3413
02:15:01,750 --> 02:14:59,599
it was crazy i mean and what was

3414
02:15:03,910 --> 02:15:01,760
interesting is all these guys said that

3415
02:15:05,270 --> 02:15:03,920
they've never seen the tree fall down on

3416
02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:05,280
the forest or heard a tree fall down

3417
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,560
before it was their first time

3418
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:09,199
experiencing that also uh duke was kind

3419
02:15:13,990 --> 02:15:11,679
of he thought it was cool so we went we

3420
02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:14,000
saw the tree the tree had snapped off

3421
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:15,920
about three feet up it looked like it

3422
02:15:20,229 --> 02:15:18,000
might have been cut at one point

3423
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:20,239
but i don't know for sure but it's

3424
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:22,000
possible that you know i'm not going to

3425
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:23,520
speculate and say that bigfoot pushed

3426
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:25,280
this tree over i guess it could have

3427
02:15:28,709 --> 02:15:26,800
been it could have been but i'm not

3428
02:15:31,589 --> 02:15:28,719
going to claim that that's what happened

3429
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:31,599
okay so then uh so that day kind of goes

3430
02:15:36,709 --> 02:15:32,880
on and and

3431
02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:36,719
and then we go on another hike and yeah

3432
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:39,840
eric eric eric stop stop did the tree

3433
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:41,280
break

3434
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:43,199
or did were the roots out of the ground

3435
02:15:48,229 --> 02:15:46,400
how did it just fall over i mean that we

3436
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:48,239
don't know it did break but we don't

3437
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:50,560
know how it felt okay so i'm gonna get

3438
02:15:53,830 --> 02:15:52,159
to the next the next part of the story

3439
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:53,840
is even more interesting

3440
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:54,880
is uh

3441
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:56,560
is is again

3442
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:58,079
uh we're around the campsite we're

3443
02:16:01,189 --> 02:16:00,000
hearing the sounds it's a little bit

3444
02:16:03,189 --> 02:16:01,199
windy

3445
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:03,199
and you could see all the trees from

3446
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:05,920
where we were and there's this one area

3447
02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:08,320
about maybe 100 yards away

3448
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:10,079
that where there's about five trees that

3449
02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:11,840
are moving around you could see them

3450
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:14,079
moving and they're swaying

3451
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:17,280
but the trees around it were not moving

3452
02:16:20,950 --> 02:16:18,960
so it couldn't have been the wind

3453
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:20,960
because if it was the wind then all the

3454
02:16:23,990 --> 02:16:22,239
trees in that area would have been

3455
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:24,000
moving these were all the same height

3456
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:26,239
and then all of a sudden

3457
02:16:30,629 --> 02:16:28,960
crack snapple pop again

3458
02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:30,639
another tree is coming down this time

3459
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,719
it's in another area this huge tree all

3460
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,559
right and duke could see it and this

3461
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:36,479
thing comes slamming down

3462
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:39,359
uh again this is about 50 to 75 yards

3463
02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:40,880
from where we were sitting

3464
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,800
and again i pop up and i said i'm going

3465
02:16:47,750 --> 02:16:44,719
to go up there i got to see i got to see

3466
02:16:49,750 --> 02:16:47,760
what happened and a hike up the mountain

3467
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:49,760
and this tree literally came out of the

3468
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:52,160
ground the roots are out of the ground

3469
02:16:57,270 --> 02:16:55,280
this this tree was not chopped or cut

3470
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:57,280
uh if it might have been pushed over i

3471
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:59,679
don't know but but this tree was laying

3472
02:17:03,429 --> 02:17:01,840
there uh with roots and all just laying

3473
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:03,439
on the ground you know 100 foot long

3474
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:06,559
trees so 100 150 foot trees are just

3475
02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:08,880
falling down around you guys

3476
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:11,200
yes two trees yes in a matter of two

3477
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:12,000
days

3478
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,559
wow that's pretty nuts yeah i've never

3479
02:17:18,309 --> 02:17:16,800
had one tree fall down next to me let

3480
02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,319
alone two

3481
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:20,559
and and those are big trees

3482
02:17:24,150 --> 02:17:23,120
yeah that's crazy yeah

3483
02:17:25,910 --> 02:17:24,160
so uh

3484
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:25,920
fast forwarding uh there's this lady

3485
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:27,760
named robin mcrae if you're ever going

3486
02:17:31,270 --> 02:17:29,519
to have a female guest to come on your

3487
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,280
show to talk about bigfoot she would be

3488
02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:33,840
the lady because apparently she has

3489
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,080
psychic abilities and for whatever

3490
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,000
reason she's able to communicate

3491
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:40,399
psychically with the bigfoot okay um so

3492
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:42,160
she apparently is able to have

3493
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:45,519
conversations or whatever communications

3494
02:17:50,950 --> 02:17:48,639
with bigfoot even if she's not there

3495
02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:50,960
so so so duke calls her up after and i'm

3496
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:52,080
kind of fast forwarding because there's

3497
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:53,599
more to tell about that little trip

3498
02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:55,679
there at in montana but duke called her

3499
02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:57,599
up and said hey you know we got trees

3500
02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:58,880
falling down

3501
02:18:04,070 --> 02:18:01,920
uh we're hearing these strange noises

3502
02:18:06,629 --> 02:18:04,080
talk to me and she says

3503
02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:06,639
she says yes those are the sasquatch uh

3504
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,160
they're they're they're out there that

3505
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:10,319
they're they're keeping their distance

3506
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:12,080
uh but those are the sasquatch that are

3507
02:18:16,150 --> 02:18:14,479
making these sounds uh yes those are the

3508
02:18:18,389 --> 02:18:16,160
sasquatch that they're playing with you

3509
02:18:20,150 --> 02:18:18,399
guys they they push the tree over

3510
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:20,160
she's she's telling that duke that this

3511
02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:22,160
is what's happening again i don't know

3512
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:23,840
if that's fact or if that's really what

3513
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:25,200
happened but that's what she believes

3514
02:18:28,709 --> 02:18:27,200
happened and duke believes her because

3515
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:28,719
she's apparently got a pretty good track

3516
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:30,559
record with her psychic abilities with

3517
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:31,920
the sasquatch

3518
02:18:36,150 --> 02:18:34,479
so that was exciting to find out uh and

3519
02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:36,160
here's the other thing was kind of cool

3520
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:37,920
is apparently duke's brought other

3521
02:18:42,389 --> 02:18:40,319
people up to the site in the past

3522
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:42,399
and for whatever reason the sasquatch or

3523
02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:44,319
the bigfoot did not like these a couple

3524
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:45,439
of these people that he's brought up

3525
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:48,240
there so they they do what he calls a

3526
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:50,719
zapdom somehow they they do something

3527
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:52,000
where they zap you and you get a

3528
02:18:55,030 --> 02:18:53,679
headache and you have no energy and you

3529
02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:55,040
just want to lay down you don't want to

3530
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:57,200
do anything and a couple times a couple

3531
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:58,319
people that have been up there they had

3532
02:19:02,790 --> 02:19:00,639
to go home early because they were sick

3533
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:02,800
but these particular this particular

3534
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:05,519
occasion the lady told duke that these

3535
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:08,080
sasquatches bigfoot liked me they liked

3536
02:19:12,629 --> 02:19:10,639
william and they they they were glad

3537
02:19:14,950 --> 02:19:12,639
that we were there

3538
02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:14,960
so i mean this was kind of cool hearing

3539
02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:16,800
all this stuff i have no evidence any of

3540
02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:18,559
it's true but this is the story that's

3541
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:19,760
being told to me and these are the

3542
02:19:25,669 --> 02:19:22,000
experiences that i'm having

3543
02:19:28,309 --> 02:19:25,679
uh interesting and uh now that's this is

3544
02:19:30,549 --> 02:19:28,319
day number one with duke

3545
02:19:33,589 --> 02:19:30,559
yeah this uh we're on day number two now

3546
02:19:35,990 --> 02:19:33,599
okay and so the third day the third day

3547
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:36,000
uh i'm camping in this little area in my

3548
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:38,000
in my van kind of a little bit away from

3549
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:40,240
where the campsite was maybe 20 yards 30

3550
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:42,559
yards over and behind my van there's

3551
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:44,080
this pile of

3552
02:19:48,710 --> 02:19:44,960
and i'll

3553
02:19:51,190 --> 02:19:48,720
post some pictures of these these really

3554
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:51,200
nice crystal rocks they had this little

3555
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:54,160
brown sheen on the outside but the the

3556
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:56,160
quality of the crystal was good this was

3557
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,560
not super clear crystal but if you were

3558
02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:00,399
to polish it it would be i mean it's

3559
02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:02,080
kind of thing you'd put and hang out on

3560
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:03,920
your on your mantel at your house this

3561
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:05,920
is some nice crystal and there's a whole

3562
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:07,280
pile of them

3563
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:10,000
in the ground uh in the in the dirt

3564
02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:12,319
right behind my van

3565
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:15,040
and uh and so duke duke says that they

3566
02:20:19,190 --> 02:20:16,399
left those there

3567
02:20:22,070 --> 02:20:19,200
as a gift for us

3568
02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:22,080
and duke says that that the sasquatch

3569
02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:24,800
apparently told this robin mcrae lady

3570
02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:27,680
that each of us can take one of these

3571
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,240
crystal rocks that they left there as a

3572
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:31,920
as a gift

3573
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:34,479
and and so we did and so we took these

3574
02:20:38,950 --> 02:20:36,720
rocks and again this is just

3575
02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:38,960
more kind of strange weird things i mean

3576
02:20:42,309 --> 02:20:40,800
all these little minor and we didn't see

3577
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:42,319
the sasquatch

3578
02:20:46,150 --> 02:20:44,319
uh didn't see the bigfoot i personally

3579
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:46,160
did not see a bigfoot or a sasquatch

3580
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:47,920
when i was there but every other

3581
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:49,920
experience that you can imagine having

3582
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,520
other than maybe having rocks thrown at

3583
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:53,200
us if they didn't like us apparently

3584
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,240
they would have been throwing these

3585
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:56,479
crystal rocks at us but they liked us so

3586
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:57,680
they didn't they placed them there and

3587
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:00,560
they gave them as a gift to us

3588
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:04,319
and uh what about sightings

3589
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:06,880
did you see bigfoot no

3590
02:21:14,950 --> 02:21:07,840
no

3591
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:14,960
one of the sightings that duke had had

3592
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:18,000
prior at a prior a month before

3593
02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:19,920
uh he was up on this one mountain that

3594
02:21:24,710 --> 02:21:22,960
we were together at the the third day

3595
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:24,720
and he was showing me this area where

3596
02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:26,399
they filmed uh

3597
02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:29,520
some bigfoot that were in this tree area

3598
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:31,760
and i think i sent you those pictures

3599
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:34,160
and uh he says okay this is where we

3600
02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:35,120
were

3601
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,680
when we when when i didn't even realize

3602
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:39,120
the bigfoot were there but i was

3603
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:41,200
scanning with my camera and i happened

3604
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:43,600
to stand by and there was there was some

3605
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:45,359
of them in this wood pile and one of

3606
02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:47,359
them had peaked his head up and you can

3607
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,200
clearly see the cone head you could see

3608
02:21:54,070 --> 02:21:51,280
the face you could see the eyes and the

3609
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:54,080
eyes were red which was interesting so

3610
02:21:57,190 --> 02:21:56,000
they weren't happy that duke was up

3611
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:57,200
there and apparently there was some

3612
02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:59,520
babies up there in the tree in the tree

3613
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:02,160
pile that duke sees and his other fellow

3614
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:04,640
uh researchers can see i mean i could

3615
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,640
see them i i'm not gonna bet my last

3616
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:08,319
dollar that there were baby bigfoot in

3617
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:10,479
this pile of wood but i do believe that

3618
02:22:13,750 --> 02:22:12,160
there was a large sasquatch i can

3619
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:13,760
clearly see the head and the face and

3620
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:16,160
the eyes and so anyway i was he took me

3621
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:18,560
to that spot and i was able to observe

3622
02:22:22,630 --> 02:22:20,479
that there was no tree stumps there

3623
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:22,640
there was no shadows there was nothing

3624
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:24,720
else there that could have possibly been

3625
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:26,080
anything other than

3626
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:26,880
uh

3627
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:28,560
well i shouldn't say possibly but i

3628
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:30,080
believe that he really did film a

3629
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:32,319
bigfoot on the previous trip we we

3630
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:34,080
didn't see the bigfoot on this

3631
02:22:37,349 --> 02:22:35,760
particular trip well that was kind of a

3632
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:37,359
bummer but i wasn't expecting to see the

3633
02:22:41,990 --> 02:22:39,600
bigfoot so where did you uh

3634
02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:42,000
okay so

3635
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:44,880
i would i would say that you saw a lot

3636
02:22:50,309 --> 02:22:47,280
of compelling

3637
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:50,319
evidence suggesting things are going on

3638
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:52,800
i like the falling trees the falling

3639
02:22:57,190 --> 02:22:55,120
trees is pretty weird these tree

3640
02:22:59,270 --> 02:22:57,200
structures are weird too oh i left one

3641
02:23:01,030 --> 02:22:59,280
part out so at one point it was getting

3642
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:01,040
towards it was that the second night uh

3643
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:02,800
that was it was starting to get dark and

3644
02:23:07,030 --> 02:23:05,520
the sounds were really kicking off and i

3645
02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:07,040
thought okay i'm just going to walk out

3646
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:08,479
to the road i'm just going to cross the

3647
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,080
road i'm going to go into the forest

3648
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:11,520
area here behind these trees i'm just

3649
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:13,200
going to sit down and i'm just going to

3650
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:14,160
record

3651
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:15,920
but hopefully i'll get a better quality

3652
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:18,080
sound recording of these sounds and as

3653
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:19,920
soon as i got out there the sound

3654
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:21,920
stopped but i stood out there for about

3655
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,280
10 minutes just sitting there just

3656
02:23:27,030 --> 02:23:25,120
waiting and then all of a sudden i hear

3657
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,040
this loud pop

3658
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:29,200
like if you took a baseball bat and just

3659
02:23:34,389 --> 02:23:30,880
cracked it over your leg i mean it was a

3660
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:34,399
quick loud snap like a loud tree snap it

3661
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:36,880
wasn't a tree falling over or somebody

3662
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:38,560
or a monkey in the tree breaking or you

3663
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,280
know but this was strange this was loud

3664
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,960
and so i'm gonna guess that that might

3665
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:43,920
have been

3666
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,920
i mean bigfoot apparently do that they

3667
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:47,840
do snap trees and that's what it sounded

3668
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:49,840
like to me i didn't see it but that's

3669
02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:52,000
what my interpretation of uh was their

3670
02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:53,280
way of saying okay we're not going to

3671
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:55,200
make any more howling or whistling

3672
02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:56,160
sounds but we're going to give you a

3673
02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:58,000
little tree snap for you to take home

3674
02:24:01,910 --> 02:23:59,680
and so that was my last little

3675
02:24:03,510 --> 02:24:01,920
experience that that gave me some sort

3676
02:24:06,610 --> 02:24:03,520
of clue that maybe there was bigfoot

3677
02:24:08,309 --> 02:24:06,620
there in montana in that area now you uh

3678
02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:08,319
[Music]

3679
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:11,439
you you you say goodbye to duke

3680
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:13,680
um where do you head next on your road

3681
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:15,280
trip

3682
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:17,200
now it's back to uh

3683
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:19,200
back to um

3684
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:20,800
to draper

3685
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:25,840
i wanted to stop in idaho there's a lady

3686
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:27,359
there named becky cook who's written

3687
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:30,080
four books about bigfoot in uh in idaho

3688
02:24:34,469 --> 02:24:32,399
i'd already talked to her and

3689
02:24:36,389 --> 02:24:34,479
mentioned her that if i can come by and

3690
02:24:38,469 --> 02:24:36,399
meet her and talk to her that i would

3691
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:38,479
try and so i was just exhausted though i

3692
02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:40,160
didn't have the it was getting late i

3693
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:41,680
was driving through it was too late to

3694
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:42,479
stop

3695
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:44,399
so i just i just drove through idaho

3696
02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:46,319
went right to draper which is about

3697
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:48,560
three hours heading south

3698
02:24:52,309 --> 02:24:50,000
got to draper

3699
02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:52,319
and the plan was that the next day i was

3700
02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:54,240
gonna go home

3701
02:24:57,590 --> 02:24:56,399
and i and i there was a something inside

3702
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:57,600
of me saying

3703
02:25:02,389 --> 02:24:59,520
you you can't go home

3704
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:02,399
you you need to go back to idaho you you

3705
02:25:06,550 --> 02:25:04,720
need to go meet becky cook you you need

3706
02:25:08,309 --> 02:25:06,560
to verify these stories that she's

3707
02:25:10,150 --> 02:25:08,319
telling and writing in her book you need

3708
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:10,160
to do i need i just didn't feel like my

3709
02:25:14,710 --> 02:25:12,720
research was complete yet so i called

3710
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:14,720
her up and i said listen i said uh you

3711
02:25:19,910 --> 02:25:17,600
know i'm i i kind of passed you up but i

3712
02:25:22,710 --> 02:25:19,920
i feel like i need to come back she says

3713
02:25:25,910 --> 02:25:22,720
come on out so so i so the next day i

3714
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:25,920
drove out to uh to idaho falls and she

3715
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:27,680
went right to her house

3716
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:29,920
and uh so i get to her house let's see

3717
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:32,160
what time we got right here so yeah we

3718
02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:33,600
got about eight minutes but we can go

3719
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:35,439
further if you want to anyway or if you

3720
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:36,960
want to take calls i'm cool with that

3721
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:39,920
too keep going keep going

3722
02:25:44,389 --> 02:25:41,600
so i get to her house

3723
02:25:48,309 --> 02:25:44,399
um this actually this part of the story

3724
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:50,150
all of it was great but this was like

3725
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:51,760
the icing on the cake for me i had no

3726
02:25:54,950 --> 02:25:53,359
idea i was going to hear what i was

3727
02:25:57,429 --> 02:25:54,960
going to hear or even meet the people

3728
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:57,439
meet the person that i met so i so i did

3729
02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:58,880
ask her before i drove out there i go

3730
02:26:01,830 --> 02:26:00,479
listen i said when i get there is there

3731
02:26:03,349 --> 02:26:01,840
any chance that you could take me to

3732
02:26:05,670 --> 02:26:03,359
these areas where

3733
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:05,680
where you've had your sightings or you

3734
02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:07,760
you know whatever your experiences or

3735
02:26:13,510 --> 02:26:09,520
your research

3736
02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:13,520
of bigfoot researchers they don't want

3737
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:14,880
to bring you to their research area and

3738
02:26:17,990 --> 02:26:16,080
i get that they don't want people

3739
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:18,000
trampling out in their research area

3740
02:26:20,469 --> 02:26:19,200
they don't want them if there are

3741
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:20,479
bigfoot out there they don't want to

3742
02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:22,640
tick them off uh you know it's like they

3743
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:24,399
want to complete their research before

3744
02:26:27,670 --> 02:26:25,840
they bring somebody else into their

3745
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:27,680
little area i get all that but she was

3746
02:26:32,389 --> 02:26:30,720
cool she says yeah absolutely um you

3747
02:26:34,150 --> 02:26:32,399
come out here and i'll introduce you to

3748
02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:34,160
this guy he lives in this valley it's

3749
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,479
about 50 miles away from idaho falls

3750
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:38,399
deep into the forest area where there's

3751
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:40,399
nothing but ranchers and and you know

3752
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:42,160
the nearest neighbor is like five acres

3753
02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:43,760
or 10 acres away i mean there's just

3754
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:47,280
there's just population 200. okay

3755
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:48,880
yeah yeah i don't need all that anyway

3756
02:26:53,990 --> 02:26:51,280
so that's so uh so that so i'm there

3757
02:26:55,510 --> 02:26:54,000
uh she goes i go we're chatting getting

3758
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:55,520
to know each other spent about an hour

3759
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:57,120
and a half on her porch you know she's

3760
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:59,439
telling me stories and i said well let's

3761
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:00,880
go can we go out there i want to meet

3762
02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:03,040
this guy his name's dave

3763
02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:04,399
i don't really have permission to use

3764
02:27:08,150 --> 02:27:06,000
his last name but maybe in the future i

3765
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:08,160
will and so so we're driving out there

3766
02:27:11,590 --> 02:27:09,920
we stopped at this one

3767
02:27:13,270 --> 02:27:11,600
restaurant out there and had a steak new

3768
02:27:15,429 --> 02:27:13,280
york steak strip dinner

3769
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:15,439
and i said i'll buy you guys dinner

3770
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:17,439
so then we get to this guy's house it's

3771
02:27:21,270 --> 02:27:19,280
it's about seven o'clock it's not quite

3772
02:27:22,950 --> 02:27:21,280
dark yet starting the sun's down

3773
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:22,960
and this guy's sitting on his porch out

3774
02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:25,200
there and this is like if i was making a

3775
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,560
movie

3776
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:28,800
this this location where this guy lived

3777
02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:31,120
in the setting would have been like

3778
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:32,720
little house on the prairie for bigfoot

3779
02:27:36,309 --> 02:27:34,240
it was just like the perfect bigfoot

3780
02:27:39,590 --> 02:27:36,319
okay so what happened

3781
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:39,600
so so so we get there

3782
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:41,760
so we get there and this guy he has no

3783
02:27:47,590 --> 02:27:44,240
fear this this guy he does he has no

3784
02:27:49,910 --> 02:27:47,600
shyness he's like me he's 69 years old

3785
02:27:51,830 --> 02:27:49,920
he's like he just he he knew i was there

3786
02:27:54,870 --> 02:27:51,840
to hear the stories he he wasn't there

3787
02:27:56,790 --> 02:27:54,880
just to make little a small talk so uh

3788
02:27:58,550 --> 02:27:56,800
so he starts going into the stories and

3789
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:58,560
then becky's there with her husband and

3790
02:28:02,870 --> 02:28:00,399
she's sitting there and she's listening

3791
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:02,880
and uh and so at one point i said you

3792
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:05,120
know would it be okay if i camped out

3793
02:28:08,070 --> 02:28:06,160
here

3794
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:08,080
and he says sure absolutely you can camp

3795
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:10,560
out here i said great so i'm thinking in

3796
02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:12,080
my head okay i'm just going to camp out

3797
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:14,479
here okay did you camp there

3798
02:28:18,950 --> 02:28:17,200
did you camper did you camp there i did

3799
02:28:21,670 --> 02:28:18,960
not camp there okay

3800
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:23,270
you you want me i i could probably wrap

3801
02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:25,600
this up in five minutes if you no no i i

3802
02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:28,080
think we already wrapped up this part of

3803
02:28:30,389 --> 02:28:28,720
it

3804
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:30,399
so where did you head next no there's a

3805
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:31,760
there's a better part coming there's a

3806
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:33,120
better part coming out actually that the

3807
02:28:37,750 --> 02:28:35,600
best part is why didn't we do that first

3808
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:37,760
i didn't need to hear about it

3809
02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:39,680
part of the show this is the this is my

3810
02:28:43,590 --> 02:28:41,680
last night i didn't know this was going

3811
02:28:45,429 --> 02:28:43,600
to happen i had no clue that this was

3812
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:45,439
going to happen i just i'll just tell

3813
02:28:49,670 --> 02:28:47,760
you so we're in the guy's kitchen

3814
02:28:51,510 --> 02:28:49,680
becky and her husband left it's dark

3815
02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:51,520
it's pitch black out there

3816
02:28:55,190 --> 02:28:53,439
we're in the kitchen he's showing me all

3817
02:28:58,469 --> 02:28:55,200
these uh he showed me all this stuff in

3818
02:29:03,110 --> 02:29:01,270
okay what happened we got one minute

3819
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:03,120
before the break we're sitting at the

3820
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:05,520
kitchen table and all of a sudden

3821
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:07,840
there's this

3822
02:29:12,550 --> 02:29:10,720
knock knock knock on the window

3823
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,560
and i said what's that and he goes

3824
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,319
something just knocked on the window i

3825
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:16,080
go but but nobody lives you're the only

3826
02:29:20,070 --> 02:29:17,200
person that lives out here you don't

3827
02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:20,080
have any neighbors he goes i know i go

3828
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:22,160
has that ever happened before he goes no

3829
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:24,160
i've been here 20 years and nobody okay

3830
02:29:28,630 --> 02:29:26,640
so what happened what happened

3831
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:28,640
so so a little time goes by boom and

3832
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:30,319
then we hear it again another i mean

3833
02:29:34,309 --> 02:29:31,680
we're not looking at the window because

3834
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,319
we're talking and we hear it again so we

3835
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:36,479
so we get the flashlight we go outside

3836
02:29:38,870 --> 02:29:37,680
we're you know we're trying to see if we

3837
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:38,880
could see anything

3838
02:29:43,510 --> 02:29:41,760
we don't see anything okay so so then we

3839
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:43,520
go back in the house and then now this

3840
02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:44,720
is where the apple tree i got to tell

3841
02:29:48,389 --> 02:29:46,800
you the apple tree story okay

3842
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:48,399
all right all right all right all right

3843
02:29:51,670 --> 02:29:49,840
i'm gonna stop you right there i'm gonna

3844
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:51,680
take a break all right this is fade to

3845
02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:53,680
block our guest tonight eric awakening

3846
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,640
man

3847
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:56,800
and uh so we got through the steak

3848
02:30:02,070 --> 02:29:59,600
dinner and and the drive and they're not

3849
02:30:03,030 --> 02:30:02,080
camping and we we got that out of the

3850
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:03,040
way

3851
02:30:08,469 --> 02:30:06,240
so we could get to the apple tree

3852
02:30:10,790 --> 02:30:08,479
this is the big stuff this is fade to

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[Music]

3917
02:34:13,110 --> 02:34:10,309
all right welcome back fade to black

3918
02:34:16,469 --> 02:34:13,120
eric awakening man is our guest tonight

3919
02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:16,479
rob was with us earlier tonight

3920
02:34:23,110 --> 02:34:20,399
and uh we're going into overtime and uh

3921
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:23,120
eric has paid for overtime so he's going

3922
02:34:29,030 --> 02:34:26,640
to uh get that tonight and uh

3923
02:34:31,190 --> 02:34:29,040
the apple tree now um

3924
02:34:33,270 --> 02:34:31,200
uh and i want everybody to know this

3925
02:34:36,070 --> 02:34:33,280
this conversation tonight uh with eric

3926
02:34:39,670 --> 02:34:36,080
and i this is exactly how it is

3927
02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:39,680
when he's sitting uh at at dinner with

3928
02:34:45,270 --> 02:34:41,920
me we have the same

3929
02:34:48,790 --> 02:34:45,280
uh eric get to the point okay so anyway

3930
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:48,800
um uh but this apple tree story i told

3931
02:34:55,270 --> 02:34:51,520
eric not to tell me anything

3932
02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:55,280
um i i want to hear it uh fresh and he

3933
02:35:01,110 --> 02:34:57,520
agreed okay so

3934
02:35:02,790 --> 02:35:01,120
you're you're at this house um right and

3935
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:02,800
there's knocking at the

3936
02:35:07,510 --> 02:35:04,560
the window twice

3937
02:35:09,190 --> 02:35:07,520
um he lives alone you're alone there and

3938
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:09,200
so there's nobody there you go outside

3939
02:35:13,510 --> 02:35:10,720
with the flashlights

3940
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:13,520
and uh and you guys don't encounter

3941
02:35:19,270 --> 02:35:17,680
anything and what is going on with

3942
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:19,280
what's that sound in the background is

3943
02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:21,040
that you

3944
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:24,720
nope okay i think okay let alone silent

3945
02:35:29,830 --> 02:35:26,560
okay all right um

3946
02:35:32,150 --> 02:35:29,840
that's strange okay so uh the apple tree

3947
02:35:34,309 --> 02:35:32,160
uh tell us about the apple tree

3948
02:35:35,510 --> 02:35:34,319
okay just prior to the apple tree this

3949
02:35:38,070 --> 02:35:35,520
is important because i'm gonna bring

3950
02:35:39,910 --> 02:35:38,080
back the ufo part one more time

3951
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:39,920
because this actually blew my mind

3952
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:41,680
because so i'm with the guy and we've

3953
02:35:44,870 --> 02:35:43,200
been talking for about three hours and

3954
02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:44,880
i'm thinking in my head

3955
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:47,439
this is all bigfoot everything's bigfoot

3956
02:35:52,790 --> 02:35:50,160
but i know based on my research so far

3957
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:52,800
that oftentimes you people that are

3958
02:35:56,469 --> 02:35:54,479
experiencing the bigfoot

3959
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:56,479
have also experienced

3960
02:36:00,070 --> 02:35:58,720
whether you want to call it a ufo a uap

3961
02:36:02,070 --> 02:36:00,080
or a big light in the sky or whatever

3962
02:36:02,870 --> 02:36:02,080
you want to call it they've seen those

3963
02:36:05,349 --> 02:36:02,880
two

3964
02:36:08,150 --> 02:36:05,359
in the vicinity or at the same time as

3965
02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:08,160
the bigfoot this is very common so so so

3966
02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:10,479
uh so i said to the guy i just have the

3967
02:36:14,469 --> 02:36:12,240
clear blue sky just comes into my head i

3968
02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:14,479
go you know i'm actually more of a ufo

3969
02:36:18,870 --> 02:36:17,040
researcher turned bigfoot researcher i

3970
02:36:21,190 --> 02:36:18,880
said so i'm curious have you ever seen

3971
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:21,200
any strange lights in the sky

3972
02:36:25,270 --> 02:36:23,520
and he goes oh and his eyes light up and

3973
02:36:26,950 --> 02:36:25,280
he gets up out of his chair and he walks

3974
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:26,960
over to the to the living room where the

3975
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:29,120
where the big glass uh window is and he

3976
02:36:32,389 --> 02:36:30,720
points to this mountain

3977
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:32,399
and i'm not going to use the words you

3978
02:36:36,150 --> 02:36:34,000
can you can see it on twitter you'll

3979
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:36,160
hear his exact words because he dropped

3980
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:39,280
this couple f-bombs he says one night i

3981
02:36:42,790 --> 02:36:41,840
was sitting here and this big ball of

3982
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:42,800
light

3983
02:36:47,590 --> 02:36:45,040
comes floating across the sky

3984
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:47,600
and he says it goes right in

3985
02:36:52,389 --> 02:36:50,560
to the ethan mountain and i said right

3986
02:36:54,389 --> 02:36:52,399
into the mountain he goes yeah he goes

3987
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:54,399
right into the epen mountain it just

3988
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:56,319
disappeared he goes i don't know if they

3989
02:37:01,510 --> 02:36:59,040
crashed or what happened but it went

3990
02:37:04,469 --> 02:37:01,520
right into the mountain and i said so

3991
02:37:06,950 --> 02:37:04,479
what did you do i said did did it catch

3992
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:06,960
fire he goes no and then he says so he

3993
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:08,720
says then i go what did you do he goes

3994
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:10,560
well the next morning i got my truck and

3995
02:37:14,389 --> 02:37:12,479
i drove out there and he drove around

3996
02:37:16,710 --> 02:37:14,399
the mountain and he saw nothing there

3997
02:37:18,870 --> 02:37:16,720
was nothing there there was no crash

3998
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:18,880
but but but this guy was convinced that

3999
02:37:23,270 --> 02:37:20,560
there was this huge light that went into

4000
02:37:26,950 --> 02:37:23,280
the mountain so then the last story

4001
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:26,960
was the apple tree so i so i said so uh

4002
02:37:31,110 --> 02:37:29,200
you know what time of the year do these

4003
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:31,120
do these things typically come through

4004
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:33,200
are they here all the time is there a

4005
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:35,280
certain time of the year he goes yes i

4006
02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:37,520
bel he says they migrate he says i've

4007
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:39,200
seen structures over there and he points

4008
02:37:42,950 --> 02:37:40,880
to this other mountain that's like about

4009
02:37:44,309 --> 02:37:42,960
five miles away to the right

4010
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:44,319
and he says and they're over there at

4011
02:37:47,830 --> 02:37:45,840
this time of the year because of this

4012
02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:47,840
reason and he says but this time of the

4013
02:37:51,190 --> 02:37:49,600
year they come through this valley and

4014
02:37:52,790 --> 02:37:51,200
he points to the left and i posted this

4015
02:37:54,230 --> 02:37:52,800
picture before there's all these little

4016
02:37:56,230 --> 02:37:54,240
mountains in this little valley and

4017
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:56,240
there's and he owns this house the last

4018
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,640
house on on in the valley and he he's

4019
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,080
actually builds roads for the forest

4020
02:38:04,630 --> 02:38:02,240
service so this road that goes in about

4021
02:38:06,469 --> 02:38:04,640
two miles into this into this valley and

4022
02:38:07,190 --> 02:38:06,479
he says he's got some apple trees out

4023
02:38:08,870 --> 02:38:07,200
there

4024
02:38:10,150 --> 02:38:08,880
and this the one and these are huge

4025
02:38:12,230 --> 02:38:10,160
apple trees these aren't your little

4026
02:38:14,469 --> 02:38:12,240
junior apple trees he says they're 25

4027
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:14,479
feet tall 30 feet tall apple trees he

4028
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:16,640
says he says he loves apples he gets the

4029
02:38:20,870 --> 02:38:18,479
apples he makes applesauce so on and so

4030
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:20,880
forth so he said every year

4031
02:38:24,550 --> 02:38:23,120
he said last year i was out there and i

4032
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:24,560
saw and i'm looking at the apples he's

4033
02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:26,640
going it's time to pick the apples

4034
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,319
so the next day he gets in his truck he

4035
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:30,240
drives out there and all the apples are

4036
02:38:33,670 --> 02:38:32,080
gone except for a few of them at the top

4037
02:38:35,429 --> 02:38:33,680
of the tree

4038
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:35,439
and he says he says i'm going to tell

4039
02:38:38,230 --> 02:38:36,640
you something

4040
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:38,240
he says nobody

4041
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:40,240
nobody's going out on my property nobody

4042
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:42,880
lives out there this is this is forest

4043
02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:46,479
land he says he says i he says i

4044
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:49,040
couldn't tell you how it's even possible

4045
02:38:53,670 --> 02:38:51,280
there were 300 apples on that tree the

4046
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:53,680
night the day before all but a few of

4047
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:55,520
them at the very top peak were missing

4048
02:39:00,469 --> 02:38:58,560
25 beat up in the sky he says uh you

4049
02:39:02,710 --> 02:39:00,479
know he didn't say to me that the

4050
02:39:05,349 --> 02:39:02,720
bigfoot stole his apples but that's

4051
02:39:06,389 --> 02:39:05,359
basically what he's saying so i so uh i

4052
02:39:08,389 --> 02:39:06,399
said well

4053
02:39:09,990 --> 02:39:08,399
i said so have you have you kind of

4054
02:39:11,910 --> 02:39:10,000
researched the area have you gone into

4055
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:11,920
the forest and you kind of you know he

4056
02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:13,600
says and then he tells me one last story

4057
02:39:17,830 --> 02:39:15,280
and this is actually

4058
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:17,840
kind of a freaky story he says i have

4059
02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:19,520
friends that come out here and they know

4060
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:21,680
they know about the bigfoot this lady

4061
02:39:25,190 --> 02:39:23,200
becky cook that i told you about that

4062
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:25,200
took me out there she's in interviewed

4063
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:27,200
11 people that live in this valley that

4064
02:39:30,790 --> 02:39:29,120
have all seen the bigfoot this is what

4065
02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:30,800
her books are based on this area where

4066
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:33,280
i'm at she said that uh one of his

4067
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:35,120
friends comes out he gives he lets him

4068
02:39:38,150 --> 02:39:36,479
hunt on his land

4069
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:38,160
and he was out hiking in the mountains

4070
02:39:41,590 --> 02:39:40,319
out there and he came across this pile

4071
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:41,600
of bones

4072
02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:43,840
and he tells this guy uh dave he goes

4073
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:45,359
after his hiki after his hunting trip he

4074
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,280
comes back to the house says dave i'm up

4075
02:39:51,830 --> 02:39:49,200
there and there's a bunch of bones up

4076
02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:51,840
there of all sorts of animals and right

4077
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:53,920
away when he told me that ding ding ding

4078
02:39:58,150 --> 02:39:56,160
in my mind the story that scott told you

4079
02:39:59,510 --> 02:39:58,160
probably heard scott the rocker about

4080
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:59,520
the time when he was a kid out there in

4081
02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:01,280
michigan i believe it was michigan where

4082
02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:02,800
they were they found where they saw the

4083
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:04,640
bigfoot and then they were in there

4084
02:40:08,230 --> 02:40:06,399
camping and they saw this pile of bones

4085
02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:08,240
i don't remember that part of the story

4086
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:10,000
but right away i was like oh my god this

4087
02:40:14,309 --> 02:40:11,680
is the same thing that he's telling me

4088
02:40:15,910 --> 02:40:14,319
that scott had told me so this guy dave

4089
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:15,920
says he didn't know if he believed his

4090
02:40:19,670 --> 02:40:17,200
friend he thought maybe his friend was

4091
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:19,680
pulling his leg so he got in his truck

4092
02:40:23,670 --> 02:40:21,600
after the guy left drove out to this

4093
02:40:25,910 --> 02:40:23,680
area where this guy had been hunting and

4094
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:25,920
he found the area where these bones were

4095
02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:28,960
and he counted 36 carcasses

4096
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:31,120
bones that had just been piled up in

4097
02:40:35,349 --> 02:40:33,040
this area out there in the mountains

4098
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:35,359
hmm what does that jimmy what does that

4099
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:37,120
mean well did you go

4100
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:38,800
did you go with him

4101
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:40,720
what about the apple tree did you see i

4102
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:43,520
decided after after the window knock and

4103
02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:46,080
hearing that and i thought to myself you

4104
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:48,080
know what i'm not prepared mentally or

4105
02:40:52,389 --> 02:40:51,040
psychologically to camp out here yet and

4106
02:40:54,790 --> 02:40:52,399
that's what i told you the other day i

4107
02:40:56,790 --> 02:40:54,800
said i really think i need to go back

4108
02:40:59,190 --> 02:40:56,800
because that app the apples are still on

4109
02:41:01,349 --> 02:40:59,200
the tree right now as we speak and he

4110
02:41:02,710 --> 02:41:01,359
said to me before i left he goes those

4111
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:02,720
apples will be there for at least a

4112
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:05,200
couple more weeks maybe but after that

4113
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:07,200
they'll be gone he goes if you're going

4114
02:41:11,030 --> 02:41:09,439
to come back you need to come back soon

4115
02:41:12,630 --> 02:41:11,040
if you want to if you want to try to do

4116
02:41:14,710 --> 02:41:12,640
your little research thing on my

4117
02:41:16,710 --> 02:41:14,720
mountain and and i'm so in my mind i'm

4118
02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:16,720
thinking if i could get back out there

4119
02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:19,120
and and maybe be lucky enough

4120
02:41:23,429 --> 02:41:21,359
to see if it is the bigfoot taking these

4121
02:41:25,269 --> 02:41:23,439
apples off this tree so that's kind of

4122
02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:25,279
where i'm at right now i'm pretty burned

4123
02:41:28,710 --> 02:41:26,560
out though i got to be honest with you

4124
02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:28,720
i'm pretty tired that's 1100 miles to

4125
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:30,560
get out there yeah and so what's the

4126
02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:33,120
deal are you driving out tomorrow

4127
02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:35,359
uh probably you know i'm still on the

4128
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:37,600
fence the van's got an issue with the

4129
02:41:40,710 --> 02:41:38,640
belt

4130
02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:40,720
and and the tensioner and the pulley so

4131
02:41:43,590 --> 02:41:42,560
i've got i've got to put that on there

4132
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,600
and

4133
02:41:47,030 --> 02:41:44,960
um

4134
02:41:48,790 --> 02:41:47,040
you know he's he's actually he's going

4135
02:41:49,990 --> 02:41:48,800
out of town he's going to go on some

4136
02:41:51,990 --> 02:41:50,000
hunting trip

4137
02:41:54,389 --> 02:41:52,000
so if i do go out there i'm going to be

4138
02:41:56,630 --> 02:41:54,399
out there all by myself and uh you know

4139
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:56,640
as fearless as i am i'm not so sure that

4140
02:42:00,230 --> 02:41:58,399
i want to be out there in that forest

4141
02:42:02,070 --> 02:42:00,240
all by myself

4142
02:42:03,750 --> 02:42:02,080
so i'm on the fence i'm not sure if i'm

4143
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:03,760
going to do that but but i will be going

4144
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:05,439
back there at some point if i don't go

4145
02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:06,640
now

4146
02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:11,840
montana spot i've got the spot in idaho

4147
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:13,680
i've got the spot in the ashland forest

4148
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:16,160
i can go camping at uh what was there

4149
02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:17,840
was one other spot that i came across i

4150
02:42:21,110 --> 02:42:19,439
can't think of it but but yeah so i've

4151
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:21,120
done the surveillance on four areas

4152
02:42:24,469 --> 02:42:23,200
where i believe there's bigfoot and so

4153
02:42:26,389 --> 02:42:24,479
now it's just a matter of finding

4154
02:42:27,990 --> 02:42:26,399
somebody who's got the guts to go out

4155
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:28,000
there with me that has the time because

4156
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:29,359
that really it's not something i think

4157
02:42:31,670 --> 02:42:30,640
that anybody should just do by

4158
02:42:35,030 --> 02:42:31,680
themselves

4159
02:42:37,990 --> 02:42:35,040
so my take on that what's your uh

4160
02:42:42,150 --> 02:42:38,000
so many things happened on this trip

4161
02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:42,160
yeah you i mean uh yeah the

4162
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:45,200
the the first uh night uh at the bed and

4163
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:47,359
breakfast uh the second night with you

4164
02:42:51,269 --> 02:42:48,720
know raw

4165
02:42:52,790 --> 02:42:51,279
uh the triangle ufo is one thing but it

4166
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:52,800
was the

4167
02:42:58,630 --> 02:42:56,000
the three ufos intercepting the big one

4168
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:58,640
uh that that that's pretty incredible

4169
02:43:02,389 --> 02:42:59,520
and

4170
02:43:04,070 --> 02:43:02,399
so you had uh quite a bit of ufo stuff

4171
02:43:06,550 --> 02:43:04,080
uh you had everything that was going

4172
02:43:09,910 --> 02:43:06,560
down at blind frog ranch

4173
02:43:12,070 --> 02:43:09,920
um uh uh going through these tree

4174
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:12,080
structures and

4175
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:14,240
and things not only a blind frog but

4176
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:17,520
continuing on your journey there's a lot

4177
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:21,279
of stuff to absorb and as you

4178
02:43:27,110 --> 02:43:23,840
you've been back now for a day or two

4179
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:27,120
and and uh able to just kind of look

4180
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:28,880
back at everything going all the way

4181
02:43:32,630 --> 02:43:30,160
back to

4182
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:32,640
to our little adventure which was the

4183
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:34,000
first day

4184
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:35,520
of of

4185
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:38,319
this long road trip uh where we saw some

4186
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:41,439
pretty interesting things and and and

4187
02:43:45,110 --> 02:43:43,359
i still don't i still don't know what's

4188
02:43:45,910 --> 02:43:45,120
up with that christmas tree

4189
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:45,920
uh

4190
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:50,080
that sighting that we had that was

4191
02:43:54,630 --> 02:43:52,720
pretty interesting um but

4192
02:43:55,750 --> 02:43:54,640
what's going through your mind as you

4193
02:43:58,309 --> 02:43:55,760
start to

4194
02:44:00,550 --> 02:43:58,319
put all of this together uh about this

4195
02:44:02,070 --> 02:44:00,560
trip

4196
02:44:03,670 --> 02:44:02,080
um i'm

4197
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:03,680
i'm thinking now that i want to do this

4198
02:44:06,710 --> 02:44:05,200
full-time you know it's more of a hot

4199
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:06,720
it's been a hobby for me you know if i

4200
02:44:11,030 --> 02:44:09,439
go to a conference and i get a chance

4201
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:11,040
uh you know

4202
02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:13,520
it's it's it's expensive i mean like i

4203
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:15,600
can afford it to a degree

4204
02:44:20,309 --> 02:44:18,399
but uh if and i've never been one to try

4205
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:20,319
to ask for money or try to do a you go

4206
02:44:23,990 --> 02:44:22,240
fund me or anything like that but i'm

4207
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:24,000
thinking that if i could set something

4208
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:26,319
up that's reasonable where i could get

4209
02:44:30,389 --> 02:44:28,319
just a little a few people that want

4210
02:44:31,910 --> 02:44:30,399
like first-hand information when i get

4211
02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:31,920
it right away or i could get people to

4212
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:34,160
chip in because it's 500 bucks just to

4213
02:44:37,590 --> 02:44:36,319
drive there and back in gas but but i

4214
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:37,600
could spend two or three thousand

4215
02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:39,520
dollars a month in gas i can i can go

4216
02:44:43,349 --> 02:44:41,200
all of these to all these places and i'd

4217
02:44:45,190 --> 02:44:43,359
be willing to but i would want a little

4218
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:45,200
bit of help and so what i might do

4219
02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:47,200
something i'm not sure how i'm going to

4220
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,880
do it i i just don't want to come across

4221
02:44:52,630 --> 02:44:50,479
as like i'm begging for money or the no

4222
02:44:55,030 --> 02:44:52,640
well i can't bring anybody

4223
02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:55,040
we're getting sideways the question is

4224
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:57,439
what do you what did you learn on this

4225
02:45:02,870 --> 02:45:00,000
trip

4226
02:45:04,870 --> 02:45:02,880
uh uh well the the what i believed

4227
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:04,880
already i knew is this phenomena is all

4228
02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:06,800
over the place i mean i the

4229
02:45:11,269 --> 02:45:09,520
ufos and bigfoot uh it's everywhere i

4230
02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:11,279
mean maybe not everywhere but there

4231
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:13,680
there's certainly uh evidence that

4232
02:45:18,150 --> 02:45:16,720
exists uh that i could go to and

4233
02:45:19,910 --> 02:45:18,160
here's the deal you know you spend one

4234
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:19,920
or two or three days in a spot you're

4235
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:21,520
going to get lucky like i think we got

4236
02:45:25,510 --> 02:45:23,279
lucky to see those things that we saw in

4237
02:45:27,269 --> 02:45:25,520
vernal that first night very lucky

4238
02:45:29,030 --> 02:45:27,279
i think i was lucky to meet that guy at

4239
02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:29,040
that conference just by chance and he

4240
02:45:34,150 --> 02:45:31,920
took us to those spots um i was i was

4241
02:45:37,030 --> 02:45:34,160
grateful to have met duke through

4242
02:45:39,269 --> 02:45:37,040
through the glob series uh in idaho is

4243
02:45:40,950 --> 02:45:39,279
where kevin leang is from so the the

4244
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:40,960
fact that they're saying bigfoot is in

4245
02:45:44,950 --> 02:45:42,720
idaho and then kevin lang had his

4246
02:45:47,670 --> 02:45:44,960
experiences there i'm very intrigued by

4247
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,680
idaho and all this is within like a five

4248
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:49,920
hour driving so once i get my rear end

4249
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:52,240
and draper i can go five hours any

4250
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,000
direction and any of these places that

4251
02:45:58,309 --> 02:45:56,720
i've been to i can access so uh and my

4252
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:58,319
buddy said i could stay at his house any

4253
02:46:03,269 --> 02:46:01,040
time i want he wants to go with me

4254
02:46:04,870 --> 02:46:03,279
so uh so i don't have to pay for lodging

4255
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:04,880
i don't know you know so it's just a

4256
02:46:08,389 --> 02:46:06,720
matter of you know as long as my vehicle

4257
02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:08,399
is running good and i've got gas in the

4258
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:10,960
tank um so yeah but the winner's coming

4259
02:46:14,550 --> 02:46:12,560
now so i don't know but i'm telling you

4260
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:14,560
this is i'm i'm more passionate about it

4261
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:17,040
now than ever and i do want it i i want

4262
02:46:19,349 --> 02:46:18,240
to have a sighting i want to be able to

4263
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:19,359
record it

4264
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:20,960
obviously that's the money shot it

4265
02:46:24,389 --> 02:46:22,720
didn't have the money shot this time but

4266
02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:24,399
all the stories and all the experiences

4267
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:27,600
that i had uh add up to quite a bit that

4268
02:46:31,269 --> 02:46:29,200
that i'm excited about and i'm a little

4269
02:46:34,230 --> 02:46:31,279
i don't want to say i'm depressed

4270
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:34,240
but living being home and just living my

4271
02:46:37,910 --> 02:46:35,680
normal life

4272
02:46:39,910 --> 02:46:37,920
is boring to me now i want to get out

4273
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:39,920
there i want to do it again i'm like i

4274
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:43,200
just i'm i'm addicted i'm addicted now

4275
02:46:47,429 --> 02:46:45,600
who's going to run your company while

4276
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:47,439
you're gone

4277
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:50,160
do you have a weighted um

4278
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:52,399
the company can can run

4279
02:46:57,269 --> 02:46:55,040
part-time uh through through management

4280
02:46:58,469 --> 02:46:57,279
on my my end but to be honest with you

4281
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:58,479
uh

4282
02:47:04,150 --> 02:46:59,760
i don't really

4283
02:47:06,389 --> 02:47:04,160
trying to be the leader in uh you know

4284
02:47:08,550 --> 02:47:06,399
big bounce house uh you know rentals

4285
02:47:11,269 --> 02:47:08,560
that doesn't matter this is my passion

4286
02:47:13,910 --> 02:47:11,279
now right right bigfoot is my passion

4287
02:47:15,830 --> 02:47:13,920
and and ufos kind of work hand in hand

4288
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:15,840
with that whole thing so that's

4289
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:17,279
that's my passion i mean it's like for

4290
02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:18,800
anybody i mean all the guys the people

4291
02:47:22,790 --> 02:47:20,560
that you've had on your show i mean that

4292
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:22,800
are into ufos or whatever they're into i

4293
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:24,399
mean it becomes their passion and that

4294
02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:26,560
becomes their their driving force and so

4295
02:47:29,429 --> 02:47:27,760
this is kind of

4296
02:47:31,030 --> 02:47:29,439
i think this is what's going to drive me

4297
02:47:33,030 --> 02:47:31,040
and so i'm not going to be able to make

4298
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:33,040
as much money at my business because i

4299
02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:34,240
really want to figure out a way to

4300
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:36,000
transition into doing this

4301
02:47:38,950 --> 02:47:37,680
on a more full-time basis i don't know

4302
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:38,960
how i'm going to manage it but i'll

4303
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:42,720
figure it out now what do we do eric um

4304
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:44,720
you're out there collecting all of this

4305
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:47,120
information and and i interview so many

4306
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:48,560
people

4307
02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:50,000
that uh

4308
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:54,160
their bigfoot seems to be

4309
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:56,800
two different conversations

4310
02:48:02,790 --> 02:48:00,160
there is the physical biologicals

4311
02:48:03,750 --> 02:48:02,800
undiscovered species

4312
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:03,760
thing

4313
02:48:08,710 --> 02:48:07,040
that is absolutely part of uh uh

4314
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:08,720
anthropology

4315
02:48:14,830 --> 02:48:11,120
and then there's the other side of

4316
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:14,840
bigfoot that is this inter-dimensional

4317
02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:16,800
interplanetary uh

4318
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:17,600
uh

4319
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:20,160
situation now it's two different

4320
02:48:23,429 --> 02:48:21,680
conversations

4321
02:48:26,389 --> 02:48:23,439
that are happening right now what do we

4322
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:28,230
i don't think it's ever going to change

4323
02:48:31,670 --> 02:48:30,080
i don't think it's one or the other i if

4324
02:48:34,630 --> 02:48:31,680
i had to bet right now i would say it's

4325
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:34,640
both i think that there's it's possible

4326
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:36,640
more likely to be possible that there's

4327
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:37,439
a

4328
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:51,520
they function

4329
02:48:55,269 --> 02:48:53,279
then i also believe

4330
02:48:57,910 --> 02:48:55,279
if you take like what dr johnson said

4331
02:49:00,070 --> 02:48:57,920
and some other people that there there's

4332
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:00,080
maybe potentially a race of

4333
02:49:05,670 --> 02:49:02,800
inter-dimensional type beings that may

4334
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:05,680
may also be recognized as bigfoot

4335
02:49:08,630 --> 02:49:07,120
uh maybe they don't call themselves

4336
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:08,640
bigfoot but they maybe they look like

4337
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:11,920
bigfoot that are able to come and go

4338
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:13,760
either whether they appear or they

4339
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:16,000
disappear or they cloak or whatever it

4340
02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:17,760
is they're doing

4341
02:49:23,110 --> 02:49:20,640
they seem to have more abilities

4342
02:49:24,309 --> 02:49:23,120
that that they are able to

4343
02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:24,319
exhibit

4344
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:26,720
that maybe these potentially these other

4345
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:28,240
types of bigfoot

4346
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:30,960
don't i don't know i just it's a mystery

4347
02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:33,520
that's why i'm excited about it is this

4348
02:49:36,630 --> 02:49:35,120
this is a mystery that i don't know will

4349
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:36,640
ever get solved that i'm determined to

4350
02:49:40,309 --> 02:49:38,319
try

4351
02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:40,319
and the ufos i mean we've all seen them

4352
02:49:44,150 --> 02:49:41,920
i mean when i say we've all probably

4353
02:49:45,910 --> 02:49:44,160
most of the listeners if not you and i

4354
02:49:47,190 --> 02:49:45,920
of course lots of people we've seen we

4355
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:47,200
know they're real we know they're out

4356
02:49:50,870 --> 02:49:49,040
there we know they're not all satellites

4357
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:50,880
they're not all helicopters they're not

4358
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:53,200
all back engineered uh you know uh you

4359
02:49:57,750 --> 02:49:55,279
know lockheed skunk works even though

4360
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:57,760
that that does exist but they're not all

4361
02:50:00,870 --> 02:49:59,200
they're they're they're i do whether

4362
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:00,880
we're being visited or they already are

4363
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:02,960
here and they just decide to go out and

4364
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:04,960
cruise the skies sometimes i don't know

4365
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:06,800
but it's pretty obvious that ufos are

4366
02:50:10,309 --> 02:50:09,040
completely real the bigfoot thing is a

4367
02:50:11,990 --> 02:50:10,319
lot of people are still on the fence

4368
02:50:14,150 --> 02:50:12,000
about it and so i'm hoping to break that

4369
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,160
fence down and maybe offer find more

4370
02:50:17,830 --> 02:50:15,920
proof and more evidence that's going to

4371
02:50:20,870 --> 02:50:17,840
take people over the edge

4372
02:50:23,349 --> 02:50:20,880
well i'm over the edge well you had okay

4373
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:23,359
so let's stay right here for a second

4374
02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:29,120
um you had your uh experience uh with

4375
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:31,439
bigfoot in arizona

4376
02:50:35,349 --> 02:50:32,479
which

4377
02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:35,359
i would say that was physical

4378
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:36,479
um

4379
02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:37,920
you were

4380
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:40,000
i don't know if you want to say attacked

4381
02:50:43,670 --> 02:50:42,880
or you certainly were confronted

4382
02:50:46,389 --> 02:50:43,680
uh

4383
02:50:48,950 --> 02:50:46,399
by entities of some kind that were

4384
02:50:52,070 --> 02:50:48,960
taller than your van and by the way he's

4385
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:52,080
got an extended top large

4386
02:51:00,309 --> 02:50:52,960
uh

4387
02:51:02,070 --> 02:51:00,319
your van after your description of of

4388
02:51:03,269 --> 02:51:02,080
looking out of the windows and how this

4389
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:03,279
went down

4390
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:06,160
these are obviously very big

4391
02:51:09,590 --> 02:51:07,520
what what

4392
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:09,600
with that experience

4393
02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:12,000
that whatever is shaking your van is

4394
02:51:16,150 --> 02:51:14,000
physical this isn't some

4395
02:51:19,590 --> 02:51:16,160
inter-dimensional light being right

4396
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:19,600
right and and it was a violent encounter

4397
02:51:22,790 --> 02:51:20,640
so

4398
02:51:23,830 --> 02:51:22,800
when when when that happens and you're

4399
02:51:26,230 --> 02:51:23,840
saying

4400
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:26,240
uh it's not one or the other it could be

4401
02:51:30,830 --> 02:51:29,040
both what was that encounter

4402
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:30,840
uh that you

4403
02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:33,520
had like you know that's where i've only

4404
02:51:36,630 --> 02:51:34,960
been researching this for about a year

4405
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:36,640
and a half and the mogeon they call it

4406
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:39,840
the moghian monster where i was so and

4407
02:51:45,429 --> 02:51:43,120
then even uh the william who's from

4408
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:45,439
arkansas and texas area the they call

4409
02:51:50,550 --> 02:51:48,319
the falc monster the the legend of boggy

4410
02:51:52,150 --> 02:51:50,560
creek that's where he lives right he

4411
02:51:54,309 --> 02:51:52,160
says the the bigfoot

4412
02:51:57,269 --> 02:51:54,319
whether you call them bigfoot or dugways

4413
02:51:59,750 --> 02:51:57,279
or or you call them uh dogman or

4414
02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:59,760
whatever you whatever these things are

4415
02:52:03,670 --> 02:52:01,680
in some parts of the united states and

4416
02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:03,680
maybe other parts of the world these

4417
02:52:09,110 --> 02:52:07,120
things are behave differently they look

4418
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:09,120
different they're not all the same kind

4419
02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:11,120
of like humans you know we're depending

4420
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:12,240
on where you live and where you're

4421
02:52:16,550 --> 02:52:14,800
raised and what you i mean we're we kind

4422
02:52:18,710 --> 02:52:16,560
of look the same we kind of act the same

4423
02:52:20,710 --> 02:52:18,720
generally but we're not all the same i

4424
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:20,720
kind of that's kind of how i correlate

4425
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:22,720
this whole bigfoot thing where uh you

4426
02:52:27,349 --> 02:52:24,800
know for whatever reason they don't all

4427
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:27,359
act and behave the same maybe i'm

4428
02:52:30,950 --> 02:52:29,760
guessing i i don't know enough yet but i

4429
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:30,960
could tell you this this guy william

4430
02:52:35,110 --> 02:52:33,120
lunsford and this other guy that i

4431
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:35,120
talked to i mean they got 40 50 years of

4432
02:52:38,870 --> 02:52:37,120
experience these are the guys

4433
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:38,880
when you get these guys on your show you

4434
02:52:41,429 --> 02:52:40,160
pick their brain they're going to tell

4435
02:52:43,269 --> 02:52:41,439
you a lot more than i've told you

4436
02:52:45,030 --> 02:52:43,279
tonight i'm just telling you that i went

4437
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:45,040
out and tried to verify these stories i

4438
02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:46,720
tried to have some i was hoping to have

4439
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:48,560
some experiences i did have some

4440
02:52:53,910 --> 02:52:50,800
experiences i didn't see one but i

4441
02:52:55,510 --> 02:52:53,920
believe these stories uh because i just

4442
02:52:56,950 --> 02:52:55,520
there's some stories i believe some i

4443
02:52:58,790 --> 02:52:56,960
don't but i believe the stories that i

4444
02:53:00,790 --> 02:52:58,800
was told in the last 20 days i don't

4445
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:00,800
think anybody was bs in me

4446
02:53:05,429 --> 02:53:02,800
not one of them so

4447
02:53:08,830 --> 02:53:05,439
but what you encountered

4448
02:53:14,150 --> 02:53:11,830
physically ha i guess so i mean it had

4449
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:14,160
to be i mean it was pushing on my van uh

4450
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:16,479
you know and whatever knocked me down

4451
02:53:20,150 --> 02:53:18,800
i didn't see it knock me down i mean i

4452
02:53:21,349 --> 02:53:20,160
must it could have been like you know

4453
02:53:23,349 --> 02:53:21,359
you made you brought up an interesting

4454
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:23,359
point i didn't think about this look you

4455
02:53:26,070 --> 02:53:24,640
mentioned there might have been three

4456
02:53:28,150 --> 02:53:26,080
there and i didn't think about it i was

4457
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:28,160
thinking that maybe the two that were

4458
02:53:31,429 --> 02:53:29,680
pushing on my van

4459
02:53:34,070 --> 02:53:31,439
followed me are

4460
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:34,080
or ran me down on the road but it's also

4461
02:53:38,230 --> 02:53:35,920
possible after you mentioned there could

4462
02:53:39,910 --> 02:53:38,240
have been a third one in the force

4463
02:53:41,349 --> 02:53:39,920
out in the area where i was running and

4464
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:41,359
that one might have slipped out of the

4465
02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:43,200
forest and knocked me down i don't know

4466
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:44,720
i didn't see it i just know what

4467
02:53:49,349 --> 02:53:47,279
happened so i don't have the concrete

4468
02:53:51,110 --> 02:53:49,359
answers i just know that these these

4469
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:51,120
things are really happening there's

4470
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:52,880
people out there trying to figure it out

4471
02:53:55,349 --> 02:53:54,560
no one's really totally figured it out

4472
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:55,359
yet

4473
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:57,040
people come up with some

4474
02:54:02,070 --> 02:53:59,120
interesting uh evidence and great

4475
02:54:04,070 --> 02:54:02,080
stories but um you know but here's the

4476
02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:04,080
deal i don't think i don't want to meet

4477
02:54:07,990 --> 02:54:06,479
a gray i don't want to meet a reptilian

4478
02:54:09,830 --> 02:54:08,000
okay i don't want to go out and

4479
02:54:11,830 --> 02:54:09,840
searching for grays or searching for

4480
02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:11,840
reptilians but i'm for some reason i'm

4481
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:13,600
cool with the bigfoot i don't think

4482
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:14,720
they're going to hurt me i don't think

4483
02:54:17,110 --> 02:54:15,920
they're going to try to kill me i don't

4484
02:54:18,710 --> 02:54:17,120
think they're going to try to abduct me

4485
02:54:20,710 --> 02:54:18,720
or eat me i just don't get that vibe

4486
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:20,720
from them so i'm willing to put myself

4487
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:23,120
out on a limb hoping that i'll see one

4488
02:54:26,710 --> 02:54:25,120
in the light or maybe again in the dark

4489
02:54:27,830 --> 02:54:26,720
where i could say where i could see

4490
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,840
their face

4491
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:29,439
and i could see their eyes i mean i'm

4492
02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:31,600
just kind of yearning for that one more

4493
02:54:33,910 --> 02:54:32,640
chance

4494
02:54:35,910 --> 02:54:33,920
that's really where i'm at with i'm

4495
02:54:39,590 --> 02:54:35,920
chasing it right now i'm chasing it well

4496
02:54:40,790 --> 02:54:39,600
yeah you know uh i want to uh i want to

4497
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:40,800
go

4498
02:54:46,469 --> 02:54:44,000
and and spend some time squatching um i

4499
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:46,479
love sky watching i love going out and

4500
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:49,120
seeing things and i've seen stuff that i

4501
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:51,120
can't explain and i don't ever want that

4502
02:54:57,110 --> 02:54:53,920
to end i'm gonna continue to do that but

4503
02:54:59,030 --> 02:54:57,120
i i think i'm going to get an rv and i

4504
02:55:02,230 --> 02:54:59,040
am going to go out

4505
02:55:03,670 --> 02:55:02,240
uh to these locations and and camp out

4506
02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:03,680
and and do this

4507
02:55:07,990 --> 02:55:06,800
and i can i can i'll bet a dime to a

4508
02:55:10,469 --> 02:55:08,000
dollar that

4509
02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:10,479
uh in 2022

4510
02:55:16,070 --> 02:55:14,399
i am going to have uh an rv right on and

4511
02:55:17,830 --> 02:55:16,080
i'm gonna go out there and get this done

4512
02:55:20,790 --> 02:55:17,840
it's patience with these

4513
02:55:22,230 --> 02:55:20,800
it's ufos you and i both know uh you get

4514
02:55:24,230 --> 02:55:22,240
you know you could probably see those

4515
02:55:25,269 --> 02:55:24,240
just about any night if you have the

4516
02:55:27,269 --> 02:55:25,279
right equipment and you're in the right

4517
02:55:28,790 --> 02:55:27,279
spot with the bigfoot you got to be

4518
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:28,800
patient i mean it's one of those things

4519
02:55:31,269 --> 02:55:29,520
where

4520
02:55:32,710 --> 02:55:31,279
uh you might be out there two three four

4521
02:55:34,230 --> 02:55:32,720
five days

4522
02:55:36,389 --> 02:55:34,240
and you'll have all the same experiences

4523
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:36,399
i did but you may not see one maybe you

4524
02:55:40,070 --> 02:55:38,399
will i mean uh but it's that's the thing

4525
02:55:42,469 --> 02:55:40,080
you gotta have yourself your mindset's

4526
02:55:44,870 --> 02:55:42,479
gotta be uh you know i i don't you can't

4527
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:44,880
have any expectations

4528
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:46,399
but i do recommend you have somebody

4529
02:55:49,830 --> 02:55:48,080
with you i mean like

4530
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:49,840
i mentioned this to you before i mean i

4531
02:55:53,830 --> 02:55:52,399
i had this vision of jimmy church radio

4532
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:53,840
going on the road

4533
02:55:58,309 --> 02:55:55,760
and you can potentially broadcasting

4534
02:56:00,309 --> 02:55:58,319
your shows on the road it wouldn't be

4535
02:56:02,870 --> 02:56:00,319
quite the studio bunker that you have

4536
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:02,880
now but you could do your squatching and

4537
02:56:07,670 --> 02:56:04,960
your night watching and still do your

4538
02:56:09,269 --> 02:56:07,680
show and not be tied into being you know

4539
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:09,279
at the edwards air force base every

4540
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:12,240
night in the underground bunker

4541
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:13,600
right right right

4542
02:56:16,870 --> 02:56:15,520
well that's what it's going to take uh

4543
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:16,880
in my opinion if you really want to have

4544
02:56:20,309 --> 02:56:18,800
the experience that you got to kind of

4545
02:56:22,389 --> 02:56:20,319
prep even if you did it for a week or

4546
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:22,399
two you say okay give me church radios

4547
02:56:25,510 --> 02:56:23,920
going on the road for two weeks we're

4548
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:25,520
going here here and here we're going to

4549
02:56:28,950 --> 02:56:27,520
broadcast from the road and and the

4550
02:56:30,150 --> 02:56:28,960
sound quality is going to be good it may

4551
02:56:31,190 --> 02:56:30,160
not be what you're used to but it

4552
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:31,200
doesn't matter because we're going to go

4553
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:32,880
find bigfoot

4554
02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:34,560
yeah yeah i mean i can

4555
02:56:38,389 --> 02:56:37,279
i can get a satellite uplink and

4556
02:56:49,830 --> 02:56:38,399
and

4557
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:49,840
of that is possible i mean if i

4558
02:56:56,070 --> 02:56:52,560
if i set if i get an rv there's going to

4559
02:56:57,830 --> 02:56:56,080
be a studio inside of it of some kind i

4560
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:57,840
mean that's that's that's

4561
02:57:00,790 --> 02:56:59,840
the reason for doing it

4562
02:57:03,670 --> 02:57:00,800
um

4563
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:03,680
yeah absolutely and i i have the means

4564
02:57:08,070 --> 02:57:05,200
uh to do it

4565
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:08,080
my pitch and here's my pitch to you is

4566
02:57:11,910 --> 02:57:10,080
that i believe you're going to do this i

4567
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:11,920
know i and i believe that whether it's

4568
02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:14,160
discovery or history or travel or

4569
02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:15,439
whoever

4570
02:57:19,190 --> 02:57:17,840
that if they knew what we were what

4571
02:57:22,150 --> 02:57:19,200
you're planning to do and if you want to

4572
02:57:24,389 --> 02:57:22,160
bring me along i that is a tv show all

4573
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:24,399
day long all day long

4574
02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:26,160
and it's a good one because i think we

4575
02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:29,439
can do better i personally believe

4576
02:57:33,030 --> 02:57:30,960
that what we've been seeing on these

4577
02:57:35,510 --> 02:57:33,040
other shows i believe that

4578
02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:35,520
yeah yeah yeah it won't be on network

4579
02:57:38,880 --> 02:57:43,269
history channel and discovery

4580
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:45,349
i have i have connections

4581
02:57:54,309 --> 02:57:47,279
we sell it to him whatever you know i

4582
02:58:01,510 --> 02:57:57,590
look um this is my way

4583
02:58:03,110 --> 02:58:01,520
of bringing granite countertops

4584
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:03,120
to the forest

4585
02:58:07,990 --> 02:58:05,920
you know look my rv is not going to be a

4586
02:58:09,030 --> 02:58:08,000
want

4587
02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:09,040
no

4588
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:11,279
you need a four-wheel drive first of all

4589
02:58:14,870 --> 02:58:12,560
i recommend

4590
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:14,880
and if you really you know if you're

4591
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:16,240
if you're the man of means that i think

4592
02:58:25,990 --> 02:58:24,950
oh you know what i'm mad

4593
02:58:28,469 --> 02:58:26,000
you're going to go you're going to go

4594
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:28,479
about 150 170 k in the hole but who

4595
02:58:33,190 --> 02:58:30,640
cares yeah yeah well i've been looking

4596
02:58:35,030 --> 02:58:33,200
at those those adventure vans and

4597
02:58:36,389 --> 02:58:35,040
getting a four-wheel drive version of

4598
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:36,399
that um

4599
02:58:42,469 --> 02:58:38,880
that's that's possible too as well but

4600
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:42,479
i'm thinking more of uh uh a class b

4601
02:58:47,429 --> 02:58:45,600
you know 20 25 foot not too big

4602
02:58:49,030 --> 02:58:47,439
um not

4603
02:58:50,469 --> 02:58:49,040
keep it as small as you can do because

4604
02:58:52,070 --> 02:58:50,479
you're going to get into areas you're

4605
02:58:54,550 --> 02:58:52,080
not going to be able to get that class b

4606
02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:54,560
into it right right right i mean look i

4607
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:56,960
would like a class a you know i would

4608
02:59:02,630 --> 02:59:00,160
like to get bono's old tour bus uh from

4609
02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:02,640
the there you go from the joshua tree uh

4610
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:03,840
tour but

4611
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:07,040
uh that i i can't maneuver that up into

4612
02:59:13,030 --> 02:59:09,840
these remote locations but uh getting an

4613
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:13,040
rv equipping it getting you know cameras

4614
02:59:18,790 --> 02:59:15,680
and radio and audio and all of that

4615
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,800
uh with the satellite feeds uh is is

4616
02:59:23,349 --> 02:59:20,479
completely doable and i think that is

4617
02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:23,359
the plan for 2022 uh to go out there and

4618
02:59:27,030 --> 02:59:24,960
get this done and we could

4619
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:27,040
you know continue to do the show live

4620
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:28,399
every night that's not going to get

4621
02:59:31,990 --> 02:59:29,520
interrupted

4622
02:59:33,590 --> 02:59:32,000
and then we could do the other uh the

4623
02:59:35,750 --> 02:59:33,600
other stuff so

4624
02:59:37,110 --> 02:59:35,760
yeah yeah i think it's uh i think it's

4625
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:37,120
totally doable

4626
02:59:42,150 --> 02:59:38,160
um

4627
02:59:44,710 --> 02:59:42,160
uh oh ken priest just uh can just post

4628
02:59:47,910 --> 02:59:44,720
it see ken this is me

4629
02:59:50,469 --> 02:59:47,920
that's what i would like to do um

4630
02:59:52,150 --> 02:59:50,479
uh to be able to pull up in the class a

4631
02:59:54,469 --> 02:59:52,160
and do the pop-outs

4632
02:59:57,349 --> 02:59:54,479
uh but

4633
03:00:00,870 --> 02:59:57,359
that is perfect but i've got to scale it

4634
03:00:03,190 --> 03:00:00,880
down just a bit uh from that but

4635
03:00:05,030 --> 03:00:03,200
but ken knows where my taste is with

4636
03:00:06,630 --> 03:00:05,040
that i got to get out of here eric great

4637
03:00:09,030 --> 03:00:06,640
show tonight man

4638
03:00:10,230 --> 03:00:09,040
and keep doing what you're doing and

4639
03:00:12,790 --> 03:00:10,240
i'll talk to you first thing in the

4640
03:00:14,230 --> 03:00:12,800
morning man thank you so much

4641
03:00:15,590 --> 03:00:14,240
right on man thanks for having me on i

4642
03:00:18,150 --> 03:00:15,600
appreciate that and this was for the

4643
03:00:20,230 --> 03:00:18,160
faders i love all the faders i'm never

4644
03:00:22,790 --> 03:00:20,240
going to stop being a fader i'm going to

4645
03:00:24,389 --> 03:00:22,800
give it all to you guys anytime i get it

4646
03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:24,399
i'll talk to you eric have a good night

4647
03:00:28,870 --> 03:00:26,319
man be safe

4648
03:00:31,349 --> 03:00:28,880
bye bye that's uh that was a great show

4649
03:00:34,309 --> 03:00:31,359
tonight man and uh thank you so much

4650
03:00:36,309 --> 03:00:34,319
eric and getting getting out there and

4651
03:00:38,710 --> 03:00:36,319
getting it done

4652
03:00:40,469 --> 03:00:38,720
seriously man seriously faded black is

4653
03:00:42,950 --> 03:00:40,479
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4654
03:00:45,190 --> 03:00:42,960
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4655
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4656
03:00:49,910 --> 03:00:47,439
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4657
03:00:52,150 --> 03:00:49,920
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4658
03:00:53,429 --> 03:00:52,160
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4659
03:00:56,309 --> 03:00:53,439
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4660
03:00:58,070 --> 03:00:56,319
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4661
03:01:00,630 --> 03:00:58,080
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4662
03:01:02,230 --> 03:01:00,640
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4663
03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:02,240
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4664
03:01:05,269 --> 03:01:03,920
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4665
03:01:06,469 --> 03:01:05,279
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4666
03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:06,479
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4667
03:01:11,110 --> 03:01:09,200
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4668
03:01:13,110 --> 03:01:11,120
billy carson

4669
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:13,120
road trip week

4670
03:01:17,670 --> 03:01:15,120
night number two tomorrow night with

4671
03:01:20,389 --> 03:01:17,680
billy carson but until then i want

4672
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:20,399
everybody to be safe

4673
03:01:30,320 --> 03:01:27,680
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4674
03:01:38,870 --> 03:01:30,330
[Applause]

4675
03:01:38,880 --> 03:01:46,070
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4676
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:49,410
right